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enigne stand, how do I get enigne to attach to engine stand |
mattp |
Nov 26 2007, 08:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 22-November 06 From: westchester NY Member No.: 7,252 |
starting a build of a raby 2056, got a standard engine stand, how do I attache the engine to it? Do I need to buy an adaptor? I borrowed the engine stand and probably will not do another one for a long time.
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Eric Taylor |
Nov 26 2007, 08:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 1-June 03 From: Newport, OR/Eugene Oregon- UO Member No.: 770 |
I just bolted it up to the transmission studs. I don't know what kind of stand you have, but mine has 4 adjustable arms. They were kind of a pain in the ass, but it's cheaper than buying an adaptor. If I were to do it again I would pull the part that attaches to the engine off the stand, attach it to the engine on the ground and then lift the whole assembly(a bitch) up and slide it into the stand. When I did it I balanced the engine on a floor jack and then bolted it up to the arms. I almost dropped it a couple of times and the jack wasn't tall enough so I ended up holding it with my dad in our hands for way to long. Do it on the ground and save yourself and motor from failure.
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ConeDodger |
Nov 26 2007, 08:22 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,587 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
starting a build of a raby 2056, got a standard engine stand, how do I attache the engine to it? Do I need to buy an adaptor? I borrowed the engine stand and probably will not do another one for a long time. You need an adaptor for the Type IV or VW motor. It bolts to a case half. Not the assembled case. (McMark is smiling right now) You can find them on EBay at a buy it now price that matches what the guy normally charges. |
Al Meredith |
Nov 27 2007, 08:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 960 Joined: 4-November 04 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 3,061 |
I got an engine bracket from J.C.Whitney that slid right into a $39 Harbour freight engine stand. I don't see it in the book any more. Check "Hot VW" for an engine bracket, they usually have a smaller diameter mounting tube.
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shelby/914 |
Nov 27 2007, 09:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 804 Joined: 24-August 05 From: Foxfield, Co Member No.: 4,655 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
We just took a 1.8 apart 2 weeks ago using a standard engine stand. Had to notch the end of one or two of the arms and use a little longer bolt on one arm but it worked fine. Sorry I can't remember any better and the stand is still over at Kevin's house. I'll see if he can describe the mods better or post a pix.
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VaccaRabite |
Nov 27 2007, 10:19 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,444 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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euro911 |
Nov 27 2007, 10:34 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,849 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
I use an 'HF' transmission jack to lift engines up to the stands.
My stands are made from 'HF' bases with modified VW/T-4 Bus transaxle bell housings Attached image(s) |
mattp |
Nov 28 2007, 11:37 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 22-November 06 From: westchester NY Member No.: 7,252 |
after all this I got it on the stand I have, the 4 bolts hooked up and were adjustable enough.
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benalishhero |
Nov 29 2007, 04:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 28-November 07 From: Portland, Maine Member No.: 8,384 Region Association: North East States |
I use an empi. Cost: 23 bucks. Works vw.
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McMark |
Dec 1 2007, 10:11 PM
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euro911 |
Dec 1 2007, 10:19 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,849 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
I built many type-1 engines on the EMPI-style stand. Still have one out in the shed. I've seen folks weld a horizontal tube at the front to add additional wheels for more stability, but they're still lightweight and wouldn't want to use it for a T-4 or a /6 in full dress ...
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McMark |
Dec 1 2007, 10:21 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) EMPI stand should NEVER be used for a six.
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John |
Dec 1 2007, 10:34 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
On my first stand that I built, I took 2 of the 2-arm yoke and welded together a 4-arm yoke and had my friend's father make me a 1/2 ring to weld the arms to. I still use that one for transmissions.
My second and third stands utilize the later 5-arm yokes like shown above. For the actual stand, I build mine to be similar in design to a standard 1500# stand as shown by McMark. I did something a bit different on my last stand. I slit the tube that allows the mount to rotate and can use it as a clamp. I can hold an engine at ANY angle, not just 0, 45, 90, 135, 180. There are some people making adapter rings that bolt to standard 4-arm engine stands that allow them to be used with Porsche engines. just my $0.02 |
LarryR |
Dec 1 2007, 10:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 929 Joined: 15-March 07 From: E. Bay Area, N. California Member No.: 7,604 |
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euro911 |
Dec 1 2007, 11:41 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,849 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Yes, those are very robust and I will eventually come across one down the road, but they still only bolt up at two locations on the case. Of course, there's no way around that issue, so I like the modified bell housing cases ... they double as run platforms when the engine is done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
P.S. Nice motor Larry (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Attached image(s) |
BKLA |
Dec 2 2007, 12:50 AM
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Really old member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 14-August 05 From: OR Member No.: 4,590 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Dr Evil |
Dec 2 2007, 01:23 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have the one that is just the ring part that can fit to the 4 arms of the std stand mount. I got it for a deal....and now I cant find it. Did I lend it to someone and forget? If I got the whole adapter like above it would have been harder to lose (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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McMark |
Dec 2 2007, 02:43 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Yes, those are very robust and I will eventually come across one down the road, but they still only bolt up at two locations on the case. Of course, there's no way around that issue, so I like the modified bell housing cases ... they double as run platforms when the engine is done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) P.S. Nice motor Larry (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But you can't build a motor on a bell housing stand. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
euro911 |
Dec 2 2007, 12:33 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,849 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Due to the lip that slides into the bell housing, separating and rejoining the engine case halves is awkward, but do-able. I'm working on re-modifying the bell housings to eliminate the problem ... cutting away some material on one side and using short spacers ... will keep you guys posted.
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