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Danny_Ocean
post Jan 6 2008, 12:19 PM
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I can't believe this turd-bomb sold for $13.1k. I was hoping to get $6.5k for mine, but now, it looks like I may have won the lotto! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...WNA:MOTORS:1123
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post Jan 6 2008, 12:29 PM
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Might have been a decent solid conversion. If the rust issues have been dealt with and it's a good running driver, I don't see the 13k sales price as super high.

The vin issue would scare me away though...
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post Jan 6 2008, 12:33 PM
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hmmmm, skool me on what is so bad about this car. i see a conversion of a -4 car with a 3.0L ?CIS motor. i'm not trying to be a wise-guy, i just would like to know what you see that i can't.....
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post Jan 6 2008, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(Headrage @ Jan 6 2008, 01:29 PM) *

Might have been a decent solid conversion. If the rust issues have been dealt with and it's a good running driver, I don't see the 13k sales price as super high.

The vin issue would scare me away though...


Car looks rough. How can you tell if it is a "decent solid conversion" by looking at those pics? Imagine how much it would've sold for if the owner invested a few hours in a wash/wax/vacuum?

I'm not complaining. If that car sold for that price, I'm going to laugh all the way to the bank when mine sells.
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post Jan 6 2008, 12:34 PM
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I can tell you this; if Chuck Miller did all the work, then this is a damn good conversion.


Chuck's worked on my 914 and 944S2. He is a brilliant, quality focused mechanic.
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post Jan 6 2008, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(type47 @ Jan 6 2008, 01:33 PM) *

hmmmm, skool me on what is so bad about this car. i see a conversion of a -4 car with a 3.0L ?CIS motor. i'm not trying to be a wise-guy, i just would like to know what you see that i can't.....


Did you see the condition/quality of the 3.0 (3.2?) 914-6 conversion that sold here a few months ago for $14 ~ $16k? I don't remember the forum members name, but he was in TX or AZ. Had to sell the car for financial reasons. Car was spotless and well-built.
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post Jan 6 2008, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(bmcwilli @ Jan 6 2008, 01:34 PM) *

I can tell you this; if Chuck Miller did all the work, then this is a damn good conversion.


Chuck's worked on my 914 and 944S2. He is a brilliant, quality focused mechanic.


That may be so, however there is no documentation as to this in the ad. Would you pay $13.1k for this car, sight unseen, on the supposition it was built by a master mechanic?
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post Jan 6 2008, 12:41 PM
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Why a turd bomb? Somebody is getting a straight, complete, and running 914-6 conversion with fuchs. If that is truly a North Carolina car, it's probably non-rusty everywhere EXCEPT the hell hole. And maybe that issue is taken care of.

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post Jan 6 2008, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(kwales @ Jan 6 2008, 01:41 PM) *

Why a turd bomb? Somebody is getting a straight, complete, and running 914-6 conversion with fuchs. If that is truly a North Carolina car, it's probably non-rusty everywhere EXCEPT the hell hole. And maybe that issue is taken care of.

Ken


It is rough. That's what I call a turd-bomb. If the owner didn't have enough sense to take car of the car cosmetically, what didn't he take care of mechanically?

Once again, I'm not complaining. The price of my conversion just shot through the roof!
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post Jan 6 2008, 12:54 PM
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I know what's irking Danny....

It's not SHINEY!

Personally, I have seen so many cars with a coat of SHINEY paint covering up a gallon of bondo, I tend to wince when I see that new paint.

Real car restorers that are looking for good a solid car know that a dull finish (patina) means OLD paint and if there is OLD paint and no rust, there isn't a rust problem. And a previous crash repair would have probably showed up as rust.

Sometimes there is satisfaction in knowing you are NOT buying a turd, AND that it WILL buff out.

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post Jan 6 2008, 12:56 PM
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It's not just the ("shiney" sic) paint. Look at the details. Car has not been maintained.

And, who is "irked"? I'm doing f-ing backflips! My car just TRIPLED in price!

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I know what's irking Danny....

It's not SHINEY!

Personally, I have seen so many cars with a coat of SHINEY paint covering up a gallon of bondo, I tend to wince when I see that new paint.

Real car restorers that are looking for good a solid car know that a dull finish (patina) means OLD paint and if there is OLD paint and no rust, there isn't a rust problem. And a previous crash repair would have probably showed up as rust.

Sometimes there is satisfaction in knowing you are NOT buying a turd, AND that it WILL buff out.

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post Jan 6 2008, 01:04 PM
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Some people put their money into go, rather than show, and a well done running conversion ain't cheap.

And, as I said before, some people buy houses that have good solid foundations and need a quick cleaning, and some people buy houses because they are clean and have nice coats of paint -without looking at the foundation.


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post Jan 6 2008, 01:07 PM
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And some people buy homes with solid foundations next door to a nuclear power plant...

QUOTE(kwales @ Jan 6 2008, 02:04 PM) *

Some people put their money into go, rather than show, and a well done running conversion ain't cheap.

And, as I said before, some people buy houses that have good solid foundations and need a quick cleaning, and some people buy houses because they are clean and have nice coats of paint -without looking at the foundation.


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post Jan 6 2008, 01:12 PM
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Cool... safe, cheap power.

We need more nuclear power plants!

-Rusty

P.S. This car could very well have been worth the selling price... cosmetic issues are often the easiest to handle.
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post Jan 6 2008, 01:50 PM
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It looks like the buyer dabbles in buying and selling 914s.

I would buy the right 914-6 for that range, but to each his own. I'd want to get a little more for my money.

USD is cheap right now..... so look for CAN and EUR buyers.
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post Jan 6 2008, 01:57 PM
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It's not too cheap for Canadian buyers right now. Not as bad as it was 10 years ago, but the Canadian dollar is back down to the US dollar for a few minutes.
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post Jan 6 2008, 03:18 PM
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My biggest concern had I been looking at that car was the way the seller responded to several of the questions people had. A couple folks pointed out that the VIN he listed made it a '76 and not a '73. He failed to either correct the VIN or correct the car's year.

And why point everybody at your mechanic? It's not the mechanic's job to be your answer guy. It doesn't matter how friendly he is. Collect the questions, go the mechanic and come back with the answers.

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post Jan 6 2008, 03:27 PM
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I was the first to bring up the vin question to him. Look at all the questions and look at how he answers them. I would not touch that car with such dumbass answers. The absolute worst discription for a car I ever seen and pulls that kind of cash?

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post Jan 6 2008, 05:01 PM
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A car with a 3.0 conversion might be worth that much but if there was any tampering with vin numbers or misrepresention of ANY numbers it could be a real can of worms. Been there.
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post Jan 6 2008, 05:46 PM
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He does not seem to want to answer the vin Q. Maybe he does know, maybe not.

But I would want to get to the bottom of this before I put some money down.
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