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post Jan 7 2004, 08:45 AM
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I still believe this is the way it came from the factory as I have seen at least two others with equally crappily applied seam sealer.

So let's sum up what everyone things here...

"This car is a total piece of crap because of some extra goop on the rear access plug".

I don't see much other criticism of the rest of the car (other than possible paint color change) and a questionable speedo.

This car "appears" to be better than 99% of the cars we all own. I know looks can be deceiving, but think about what it DOES have going for it.

I go along with the "jealous" theory. You all are looking for something to nitpick...
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post Jan 7 2004, 08:46 AM
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Oh... and this person (company) has sold lots of Porsches int he past. The ads are all similar.

Look at their feedback.
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post Jan 7 2004, 08:46 AM
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I think it's bitchin!

I wish I had more cash, so I could bump the pot a bit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jan 7 2004, 08:52 AM
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I nitpick because I know damned well that the reserve won't be met @ $20k.

What should we bet? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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post Jan 7 2004, 09:04 AM
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I don't know if 20k is the reserve or not, but I will bet you a beer that it goes north of 20.

Hell that blue conversion car in the east with the bling bling wheels sold for 17,500. This HAS to be worth 2500 more than that.

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post Jan 7 2004, 11:42 AM
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I said it's a nice car. Just pointed out the obvious... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I hope he gets his price.
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post Jan 7 2004, 02:31 PM
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This is what I see:

1. sealer: The sealer issue seems hardly here nor there. There's no strong evidence that the sealer is anything but factory. Even if it is not factory, it seems to have been sealed well and there is no current evidence of rust. Fine.

2. milage: There's no strong evidence that the milage has been doctored. The speedo appears original. The owner says the documentation supports the current milage as seen in the odometer. Documentation of milage occurs each time the vehicle changes hands when the previous owner has to attest to the "actual milage" under penalty of state and federal law. Owner further says he "guarantees" that the odometer milage is correct. That "guarantee" gives the buyer insurance regardless of the "as is" waranty claim.

3. looks good: The car generally looks good, paint looks right, no evidence of rust, interior looks correct, engine looks good. No direct evidence that owner is outright lying about the condition of the car.

4.looks can be deceiving: That said, looks can be decieving. All we can know of the car on the internet is what we see in pictures and the claims made by the owner. And since owners have a reason to spin the truth and because people make mistakes, all that we can know with good certainty is what we see in the photos. We don't really know about the car's rust, about the straigntness of the body, the condition of any of the components, including the drivetrain. We don't actually know that the car moves.

5.test drive and ppi: Because looks can be deceiving, buying a $20k car over the internet, essentially, sight unseen, without a ppi or at least a test drive (by you or somebody you know) seems like a mistake to me.

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post Jan 7 2004, 02:36 PM
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current (2004.01.07 1530 EST) bid $18.6k still below reserve ...
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post Jan 7 2004, 04:49 PM
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either the seller is getting lots of email or not interested in answering certian questions. I asked yesterday questions about how the body/chassis was prepped for paint and no reply.
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post Jan 7 2004, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(vortrex @ Jan 7 2004, 02:49 PM)
I asked yesterday questions about how the body/chassis was prepped for paint and no reply.

along those lines .. the ad says " the owner decided to have it repainted, in Porsche's beautiful Satin Yellow (paint code 29) color "

"Satin Yellow" is not a 1970 color. and it is not Paint Code 29. Paint Code 29 is Canary Yellow, and that is not Canary Yellow (i know for sure because my car is, and it ain't that color ...)

it looks like a beautiful paint job, but if the Karmann plate is showing Code 29 it is a color change car.
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post Jan 7 2004, 05:41 PM
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The steering wheel has been re-wrapped!!

Man, that' crazy, it's not original leather.
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post Jan 7 2004, 06:45 PM
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ok, so ya got me lookin'..... here's a pic of my ass...errr... trunk.... no gunk for what it's worth.

like no gunk muh-self.....
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post Jan 7 2004, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(scottb @ Jan 7 2004, 04:45 PM)
... no gunk for what it's worth.

do you have a '70 /6 ? 'cause otherwise, it's apples n oranges ...
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post Jan 7 2004, 06:55 PM
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no don't have a 1970/6. so they gunked differently after 1970?
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post Jan 7 2004, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(scottb @ Jan 7 2004, 04:55 PM)
no don't have a 1970/6. so they gunked differently after 1970?

it's my personal belief that the /6's are different.
but '70 /6's is all i've owned, so i don't have a lot of data points...
could well be that they were under more pressure to a) make volume by spending less time per car; (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) reduce costs, by not using so much goo per car and c) improve the looks by being neater, as production went along.

do you have a /6 of any year ?
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post Jan 7 2004, 10:09 PM
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If it was my car, I'd show everyone my goo! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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post Jan 7 2004, 10:16 PM
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I think it's just over active goo appliers, I have surely seen a gallon used in an early trunk a couple times..

I think they probably had a hullabaloo at Karmann, and a few tech sessions to arrive at what they look like on later cars..


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post Jan 8 2004, 12:18 AM
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I have a six and the seam sealer does not look like that, it looks like it does in the photos you guys posted. Another thing that jumps out at you is the sloppy reinstallation of the rear trunk wiring harness. I'm with Rich on this, if they cut corners on the easy stuff there's a good chance they took shortcuts on the more important work.

The cost to put this car right if the rest is like the trunk could exceed $10K. If you deduct that from a max value of around $25K, the car would be worth $15K. But it does look nice and if it's just minor stuff that was done incorrectly and that doesn't both you it would make a nice toy.
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post Jan 8 2004, 06:45 PM
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Hey wait. Ive got an original /6 (1970 #2025 on the line) and my trunk has that same sloppy goop job. Must have all been done by Fritz in Stuttgart on the day after Oktoberfest.

Its a damn nice six, minor stuff perfectly corrected to concours if someone wanted. Since when are you guys fixated on CW minutiae?
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post Jan 8 2004, 06:56 PM
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Since a lot of us are members of the 914 Concours Owners Club. And we are stuck inside because of the shitty cold weather outside.
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