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> The 170 HP MassIVe 2056cc beast, And it only has 9:1 CR, video links within!
Jake Raby
post Jan 28 2008, 08:32 AM
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Thats right...
We have just broken RAT history again and have exceeded our expectations on the very first pull from a recently developed 2056 combo using a cam that was developed in 2006 and a set of off the shelf LE 200 heads!

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This engine was originally going to be equipped with our roller lifters, but due to continued challenges we had to scratch the rollers and apply conventional lifters to the engine. The power we have made with this engine using the conventional lifters is basically the same or just a tad more than we were looking for with the rollers, so I am VERY happy.

The graph posted below is from the engine's VERY FIRST pull and we know this combo has more potential that will be found in tuning alone as we continue to understand how the combination functions.

Now, the most amazing part of this is the fact that this engine absolutely annihilates the best 2270 combos from 2-3 years ago in every way! It makes just as much torque, and more HP that our 9:1 Performer 2270 did in 2006!

Last week Charles from LN engineering came down for another round of oil testing and we used this engine for the analysis. After testing 11 oils we decided to pull the heads back off the engine to see if Len can find even more power. We'll have the heads back this week and will get more results.

I honestly expect 190 HP from this engine with the changes Len will make and the CR we plan on adding. At 9:1 this engine would run easily on 89 octane and based on the timing settings the engine liked it will love 9.5-9.8:1 CR

You can view a short video we threw together from the oil testing on youtube here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYV8OD8Ohlg&feature=user

This one is just days away from being added to my turn key engine catalog... This may be the best cost/HP engine we have ever created and it still has great torque!
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Jake Raby   The 170 HP MassIVe 2056cc beast   Jan 28 2008, 08:32 AM
Jake Raby   OOps! Wrong graph got posted somehow!...   Jan 28 2008, 08:44 AM
rhodyguy   wow agin!! 44s with 32 vents, tall mainfol...   Jan 28 2008, 09:01 AM
Jake Raby   Nope, off the shelf 45 Dellortos and tall manifold...   Jan 28 2008, 09:04 AM
Bleyseng   How would this combo do with the twin TB'S?   Jan 28 2008, 09:06 AM
Trevorg7   Very cool! Congrats T   Jan 28 2008, 09:07 AM
Jake Raby   This cam has carburetor characteristics.. More tha...   Jan 28 2008, 09:20 AM
rhodyguy   i'm Del ingnant. how do the 45s compare to a s...   Jan 28 2008, 09:21 AM
Pnambic   I second this motion. :)   Jan 28 2008, 10:01 AM
Jake Raby   This engine would not be supported by Heat exchang...   Jan 28 2008, 10:30 AM
brer   :trophy:   Jan 28 2008, 11:00 AM
sean_v8_914   Jake, the end of that video cracked me up. you are...   Jan 28 2008, 11:25 AM
r_towle   So, based upon those results, what would the 2270 ...   Jan 28 2008, 12:03 PM
Jake Raby   Yep.. I do have a lot of fun... The scent of Bra...   Jan 28 2008, 12:20 PM
r_towle   Yep.. I do have a lot of fun... The scent of Br...   Jan 28 2008, 12:22 PM
So.Cal.914   "Have a milk jug of oil...It's good for t...   Jan 28 2008, 12:24 PM
Jake Raby   "Have a milk jug of oil...It's good for ...   Jan 28 2008, 01:06 PM
kart54   Jake, I have to tell you, I sometimes think you ...   Jan 28 2008, 01:25 PM
Jake Raby   Jake, I have to tell you, I sometimes think you...   Jan 28 2008, 01:48 PM
r_towle   Interesting point. I noticed in one of the first T...   Jan 28 2008, 02:09 PM
Jake Raby   I am not trying to market. Its more of an educa...   Jan 28 2008, 02:18 PM
flippa   Great work. I love reading these posts; always so...   Jan 28 2008, 02:50 PM
ConeDodger   OMG!!! I laughed my head off... ...   Jan 28 2008, 02:56 PM
Jake Raby   Brad Penn is still my favorite and after this engi...   Jan 28 2008, 03:07 PM
grantsfo   The Swepco is promising, but it'll take more...   Jan 30 2008, 10:15 AM
Travis Neff   ImpressIVe.   Jan 28 2008, 03:48 PM
root   Jake, Just wanted to let you know! Your post ...   Jan 28 2008, 05:25 PM
root   Jake, Just wanted to let you know! Your post...   Jan 28 2008, 05:26 PM
scottb   i for one am very angry :splat: :chair: i ju...   Jan 28 2008, 07:13 PM
356   Good for you.... But just once, I'd like to h...   Jan 28 2008, 07:16 PM
Jake Raby   A build sheet is a trade secret as far as we are ...   Jan 28 2008, 07:49 PM
356   Lately? No...I've been busy doing other proje...   Jan 28 2008, 08:05 PM
Jake Raby   OK Like I said, I only give this info out via ...   Jan 28 2008, 09:28 PM
yarin   WOW, very impressive numbers. Jake - will this b...   Jan 28 2008, 09:31 PM
Jake Raby   WOW, very impressive numbers. Jake - will this ...   Jan 28 2008, 10:10 PM
356   Well then, you won't get an order from me. I ...   Jan 28 2008, 09:37 PM
Jake Raby   You are not being fair... The instance you speak...   Jan 28 2008, 10:04 PM
McMark   Mike, if you want a price, make a phone call. See...   Jan 28 2008, 10:47 PM
Elliot Cannon   What will be the minimum octane for this engine? ...   Jan 28 2008, 11:05 PM
JRust   It does sound pretty simple. Call him & he wil...   Jan 29 2008, 12:50 AM
356   Simply an observation on my part. Don't shoot...   Jan 29 2008, 06:24 AM
rhodyguy   i'll tell you one reason why a hard price isn...   Jan 29 2008, 06:39 AM
Jake Raby   As far as octane for this combo, we ran it premium...   Jan 29 2008, 06:54 AM
ConeDodger   Jake, I realize this is a test engine. How would ...   Jan 29 2008, 11:27 AM
Jake Raby   That CR isn't high dynamically with this cam.....   Jan 29 2008, 11:30 AM
ChrisNPDrider   Way to go Jake! Le200 heads all the way! W...   Jan 29 2008, 11:56 AM
Jake Raby   We can't calculate MPG on the dyno because aer...   Jan 29 2008, 12:18 PM
Brett W   I'm glad you finally made the mark with a 2056...   Jan 29 2008, 04:21 PM
Jake Raby   Len finished the Gen3 head upgrades and gave us a ...   Jan 29 2008, 04:58 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   Hi Jake, I know this is a little off subject on t...   Jan 29 2008, 06:24 PM
Jake Raby   Actually we reloaded the old site that was created...   Jan 29 2008, 08:37 PM
HAM Inc   I continue to be amazed at the power that is being...   Jan 30 2008, 08:29 AM
Rob Ways   Agreed. All this is giving us a lot to dream abo...   Jan 30 2008, 08:52 AM
Jake Raby   Thats been developed for years.. I finally made ...   Jan 30 2008, 10:25 AM
Bleyseng   Keeping the stock FI KILLS my ability to mani...   Jan 30 2008, 08:24 PM
Jake Raby   Looks like the real Grant is back.   Jan 30 2008, 10:28 AM
sean_v8_914   I think its passion more than promotion. fortunate...   Jan 30 2008, 10:34 AM
sean_v8_914   ONLY 10 EVENTS A YEAR? damn, I know I'm just a...   Jan 30 2008, 10:45 AM
grantsfo   ONLY 10 EVENTS A YEAR? damn, I know I'm just ...   Jan 30 2008, 10:06 PM
sean_v8_914   not compared to the track time. ax doesnt even get...   Jan 30 2008, 11:00 PM
Duffster   Jeeez.... Jake Raby and Z together in the same a...   Jan 30 2008, 11:19 PM
Jake Raby   OK here are the numbers before and after the head/...   Jan 31 2008, 10:14 AM
Phoenix914   Please don't forget the promised video! W...   Jan 31 2008, 10:18 AM
HAM Inc   Glad to help, Jake. I love getting feedback on our...   Jan 31 2008, 10:43 AM
Jake Raby   I videoed our production engine instead... It...   Jan 31 2008, 11:04 AM
ChrisNPDrider   Killer! Did the F Prod 1.8 (I think) engine be...   Jan 31 2008, 01:33 PM
rdauenhauer   181hp and 165FP of torque!! out of a 2056 ...   Jan 31 2008, 02:48 PM
Jake Raby   This was not a Nickies combo.. This last pull was ...   Jan 31 2008, 02:59 PM
grantsfo   I like this video better. http://www.youtube.com/...   Jan 31 2008, 03:45 PM
Jake Raby   Yeah.. Thats 8 years and 50 pounds ago :-)   Jan 31 2008, 03:47 PM
So.Cal.914   180 hp, that really is something. That is a really...   Jan 31 2008, 03:56 PM
Jake Raby   Yes, the torque is more impressive! We are at ...   Feb 1 2008, 09:57 AM
davep   Compare these results with a 1973 911 2.4S engine ...   Feb 1 2008, 12:10 PM
grantsfo   Compare these results with a 1973 911 2.4S engine...   Feb 1 2008, 03:58 PM


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