The 170 HP MassIVe 2056cc beast, And it only has 9:1 CR, video links within! |
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The 170 HP MassIVe 2056cc beast, And it only has 9:1 CR, video links within! |
Jake Raby |
Jan 28 2008, 08:32 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Thats right...
We have just broken RAT history again and have exceeded our expectations on the very first pull from a recently developed 2056 combo using a cam that was developed in 2006 and a set of off the shelf LE 200 heads! This engine was originally going to be equipped with our roller lifters, but due to continued challenges we had to scratch the rollers and apply conventional lifters to the engine. The power we have made with this engine using the conventional lifters is basically the same or just a tad more than we were looking for with the rollers, so I am VERY happy. The graph posted below is from the engine's VERY FIRST pull and we know this combo has more potential that will be found in tuning alone as we continue to understand how the combination functions. Now, the most amazing part of this is the fact that this engine absolutely annihilates the best 2270 combos from 2-3 years ago in every way! It makes just as much torque, and more HP that our 9:1 Performer 2270 did in 2006! Last week Charles from LN engineering came down for another round of oil testing and we used this engine for the analysis. After testing 11 oils we decided to pull the heads back off the engine to see if Len can find even more power. We'll have the heads back this week and will get more results. I honestly expect 190 HP from this engine with the changes Len will make and the CR we plan on adding. At 9:1 this engine would run easily on 89 octane and based on the timing settings the engine liked it will love 9.5-9.8:1 CR You can view a short video we threw together from the oil testing on youtube here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYV8OD8Ohlg&feature=user This one is just days away from being added to my turn key engine catalog... This may be the best cost/HP engine we have ever created and it still has great torque! |
Jake Raby |
Jan 28 2008, 07:49 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE Good fo you.... But just once, I'd like to hear about a dyno run, a build sheet and a PRICE? A build sheet is a trade secret as far as we are concerned. I can share some info in phone conversations, but do not do much here on the net since our stuff was ripped off in 2004. QUOTE Is it too much to ask? Joe Blow asked for "X", he got this with "X combo" and he paid this much, I'm not asking for trade secrets...... That info is personal between the customer and myself. I don't post the prices for individual customers engines because its not fair to them. QUOTE I've asked for a price a few times in the past and have since given up. Have you ever scheduled a phone chat with me?? This the ONLY way to get an accurate, to the dollar or even ballpark price. There are HUGE variables with pricing an engine like this and those must be considered when pricing the combination. QUOTE I'd love to do a T4 conversion to a 356 but would like to know my costs up front..... Thats no problem, if I receive the info I need and can ask you the right questions to be able to get the price added up. In fact I can get the price within 500 bucks in our first phone chat, the proposal we do up front locks the price to the dollar and that won't change once the project is engaged. QUOTE with all your experimenting...a firm price on a turn key 2000-2200cc motor should be realistic..... Yes, but I have a strict set of guidelines for attaining these prices, you can go to my www.type4store.com site and select the "turnkey engines" selection to see some samples of costs for the most general engines. But reading through the order process on my site and starting the process as I have outlined makes for a progressive transaction and makes my system work very well. I offer phone chats by appointment each Wednesday evening and have slots open this week, so if you'd like a price just start the process. |
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