The 170 HP MassIVe 2056cc beast, And it only has 9:1 CR, video links within! |
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The 170 HP MassIVe 2056cc beast, And it only has 9:1 CR, video links within! |
Jake Raby |
Jan 28 2008, 08:32 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Thats right...
We have just broken RAT history again and have exceeded our expectations on the very first pull from a recently developed 2056 combo using a cam that was developed in 2006 and a set of off the shelf LE 200 heads! This engine was originally going to be equipped with our roller lifters, but due to continued challenges we had to scratch the rollers and apply conventional lifters to the engine. The power we have made with this engine using the conventional lifters is basically the same or just a tad more than we were looking for with the rollers, so I am VERY happy. The graph posted below is from the engine's VERY FIRST pull and we know this combo has more potential that will be found in tuning alone as we continue to understand how the combination functions. Now, the most amazing part of this is the fact that this engine absolutely annihilates the best 2270 combos from 2-3 years ago in every way! It makes just as much torque, and more HP that our 9:1 Performer 2270 did in 2006! Last week Charles from LN engineering came down for another round of oil testing and we used this engine for the analysis. After testing 11 oils we decided to pull the heads back off the engine to see if Len can find even more power. We'll have the heads back this week and will get more results. I honestly expect 190 HP from this engine with the changes Len will make and the CR we plan on adding. At 9:1 this engine would run easily on 89 octane and based on the timing settings the engine liked it will love 9.5-9.8:1 CR You can view a short video we threw together from the oil testing on youtube here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYV8OD8Ohlg&feature=user This one is just days away from being added to my turn key engine catalog... This may be the best cost/HP engine we have ever created and it still has great torque! |
Jake Raby |
Jan 28 2008, 09:28 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE Lately? No...I've been busy doing other projects but now I'm back and would like to know how much..... OK QUOTE In the past, yes, I have asked. I was unable to get a simple "it will cost somewhere around this price not to exceed this price....." Like I said, I only give this info out via phone after a question/ answer session. In the past when I made general quotes I was held to them, even for engines that were more intensive than they were quoted. There are simply too many variables and the range can be as much as 3-4K for the same engine displacement! QUOTE I'm NOT gonna get in a war here, it's a simple knock on your otherwise stellar work...at least based on your postings . OK.. My intensity goes into development- not sales. QUOTE I've yet to have anyone that "I" know run one of your motors or get an idea on what one will cost.....AND No one wants to admit to what they shelled out.... Like I said, the Type4Store has the closest estimates you can get for an engine without a phone chat with me. QUOTE Usually when one advertises a product...they end up with a price....simply an observation. And most products aren't as variable as a custom engine. There are literally 40+ items that can impact the cost of an engine from core charges to our coating service, cryo, EFI, 3 different levels of heads and other options. Other builders keep it simple and just don't offer these items that create variables.. The result is a more generic combo- Now, I didn't make this post as an advertisement. I made it to illustrate how far we have come with development and the pride that comes with that means MORE to me than any amount of money generated by the efforts. When I can make 170HP with an engine less than 100ccs larger than a bone stock 2.0 I don't have to make a dime the rest of the month to be happy as hell! That said, if you want a price the steps are plainly posted on my site, hundreds of people per year consult with me and get their prices, its not difficult and IS VERY effective in seeing if we are compatible enough for a transaction and at the end of the first chat you WILL have a net price accurate within 500 bucks of the actual net cost. |
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