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Aaron Cox
post Jan 9 2004, 05:20 PM
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i have his speaker pods...and they are first rate!

id say keep selling them on ebay.....or contact places like Pelican, HPH< etc...
lots of people have had bad experiences with AA....
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post Jan 9 2004, 05:39 PM
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I just ordered some speaker ports and speakers, before anything changes the deal. I must admit I've had dealings with AA in the past, long before I knew anything about this board. Sometimes orders went okay and sometimes not; it was always an adventure and a learning experience! Overall, more positive than negative outcomes. With the limited supply of some of the parts for these cars, sometimes you just have to ante up and pay the price.
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post Jan 9 2004, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(morphenspectra @ Jan 9 2004, 02:29 PM)
we are also looking for a race car on the west coast to test some carbon fiber, kevlar and lexan racing parts. serious proven race cars only. we are not looking to buy just someone who is willing to test our body parts for data.

Damn, I'm just 6 Lottery numbers away from being THAT person! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post Jan 9 2004, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(Rgreen914 @ Jan 9 2004, 04:39 PM)
sometimes you just have to ante up and pay the price.

nah..its more like "bend over and pay the price" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 9 2004, 06:03 PM
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Hey Morph...

Sorry if my first post was rude (was it?)
Anyway, since Geoff just blew my cover... yes I'm one of the admins here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Feel free to e-mail or PM me at any time

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post Jan 10 2004, 08:28 AM
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hell, if the dough is right go for it. BUT, you might want to make sure there is some language for proprietary rights. i would hate to see them claim the housings are from THEIR precise molds 3 months down the line. lay in 100 sets and reserve the right to sell those as remaining inventory. it would be interesting to deal with george directly. not sean or bill or bob in shipping or cust serv. i wish good fortune in your business growth. you are close to gary emory. were you present when he talked about his feelings with regard to selling the "lost wherehouse" to g.h. when we were at jamies last summer?

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post Jan 10 2004, 10:46 AM
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I heard that story from Gary too, Kevin. I hope your sales with AA go good.

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post Jan 10 2004, 10:58 AM
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Curious to me that we are reading all about this at the 914world.com.
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post Jan 10 2004, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 9 2004, 11:43 AM)
QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Jan 9 2004, 11:41 AM)
Gosh you guys are pretty rude today!

thought so too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

must be the full moon ...
Andy

I didn't think they were rude, some of us can't be here every day and read every thread. I had to read 1/2 way down the page to find out what the heck he was talking about.
All could have been saved if his web address was included in the first post. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Good luck in the new bussiness venture no matter which way you go. It's people like you that keep these cars on the road at the prices we like to pay. Thanks.

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post Jan 10 2004, 12:04 PM
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I have bought many things from AA on ebay including a virgin set on ATS wheels for a good price. they have been fair and preformed as expected.

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post Jan 10 2004, 12:16 PM
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Morph,

Disclaimer: I have my vendor prefferences but I'm not discussing those here. When I say "they" I mean a contracting vendor "in general". This is not a shot against AA or any others.

As a previous National Sales Manager for a Fortune 500 Company, I would strongly recommend against putting all your eggs in one basket. If they want you to sign an exclusive... don't. If your products are as good as everybody says, they'll buy them regardless.

I constantly had a national chain store attempting to get us to pull from their competitors, offering larger orders etc. Don't be fooled, once they have you, they have you. Sign the contract, get the money up front and increase your staff if need be to handle all the orders. That's a position most companies strive to be in. It's a fine balance, backorders can help drive sales (implied demand), backorders that take too long can annoy customers and lose sales. Be as accurate and as honest as possible with both vendors and direct/end consumers regarding your lead time. If they're expecting a month and it takes two... well, you know the drill. (hope the guys in Eaton Rapids are reading this... I didn't mention your company by name.) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

I agree with other posts as well... send samples to all vendors. Serve a well rounded segment of the community. Sell here (and other places) at your retail prices so your other vendors can't complain about you going direct to the market. This also allows you to maintain a level of self-sufficiency in case they want to demand concessions beyond your abilities. Allow them to discount slightly however, set a MAP (minimum advertised price) and make all vendors adhear to it. If they don't, cut them off. They can only devalue your products by getting into wars with their competitors and discounting your goods into oblivion. They'll be happier in the end. They can all sell at a pre-set price and they'll make a decent margin selling "your" products.

Hope that helps the decision making process...
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post Jan 10 2004, 12:18 PM
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I have a lot of respect for gary emory. He runs a great business and is a hell of a guy. I will be sure to call him or stop by and speak with him about his business dealings with AA.
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post Jan 10 2004, 12:24 PM
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We would never sign "exclusive" contracts with anyone, but from listening from all the responses we will probably be contacting other retailers. Listening to everyones input was VERY useful. We are not new to the business world, we just have never had any dealings with AA. Part of the reason we posted this thread was to hear everyones thoughts.
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post Jan 10 2004, 12:47 PM
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Don't sign ANY paperwork with those clowns!!
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post Jan 10 2004, 01:27 PM
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Oh, how come you don't sell your engine services thru them Jake?

You are fairly local to them and they are the Worldwide 914 Headquarters!


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post Jan 10 2004, 01:52 PM
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I think it depends more on your business goals than anything else, on how to to take your products to market.

If you are more interested in saturating the market and gaining market exposure, have the capacity to effectively service the orders and maintain an acceptable customer service level, then you might want as many locations as possible distrubuting your wares. McDonalds Hamburgers has a different business model than does a local mom-and pop burger joint, but both can be successful, and both can easily fail.

Regardless of what any one person, or even a small group may think of any one business enterprise, there are others who believe differently. This 914world.com website represents only a small fraction of the total 914 ownership, its by no means the overwhelming majority of 914 owners. Maybe someday it will be, but its not there yet... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

I am quite certain that George has many happy and dedicated 914 parts customers. We always hear of the bad transactions and only a few brave souls mention their good experiences. I'm not stating my opinion of AA, just trying to get you guys to think before being so quick to publically tar-and-feather AA, PP or anyone else where you are not satisfied. If you are not satisfied with a certain company, dont go back, public crucifixions are not appropriate. We should encourage or at least not discourage, the efforts of any enterprise that supports the 914...especially as emphatically as George has over the years. What would life be like if AA was not an available resource for those NLA 914 parts that no one else has???

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post Jan 10 2004, 03:39 PM
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Folks,

I was just chatting with Nathan about the contact from AA.

He is not talking any kind of "Exclusive" deal with them (thankfully). If they order the number of items they are talking about, they will use up his production capacity for a while, and during those times he will not be advertising items for sale. He wanted us to have a 'heads up' about that.

So we can relax (a little). I do hope that AA will actually pay him for his products - but that is outside of this dicussion.

Marc...
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post Jan 10 2004, 05:22 PM
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Is he informing us that we had better buy his products before he sells his currnet stock to AA.
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Hey, look at it from the bright side... at least AA will now be selling some quality stuff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Jan 11 2004, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(Jeroen @ Jan 10 2004, 05:16 PM)
Hey, look at it from the bright side... at least AA will now be selling some quality stuff

they've been -selling- quality stuff for a long time; -delivery- is a different matter ...
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