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> The 25-year/250,000-mile refresh, UPDATE 5.15.2017: After first 1,000-mile trip
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post Apr 3 2008, 04:17 PM
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Another angle of hell...


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post Apr 3 2008, 04:19 PM
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Engman kit preparations. Very nice kit. Some holes seemed to be in the wrong spots for my early '73...

Perhaps these pics will be helpful? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)




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post Apr 3 2008, 04:20 PM
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post Apr 3 2008, 04:28 PM
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And one more... of the seatbelt bolt hole. Both had to be modified slightly.



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post Apr 3 2008, 04:29 PM
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After much discussion, reviews of all the installations detailed here on 914world and on 914club, reading the Engman instructions, and reading over PRS's directives, two race mechanics and I talked over how to actually install the kit -- with the car on the lift or on its wheels. Since you could watch the door gaps grow when you lifted the car on a *very* good lift, and because the gaps were good when the car was on its four wheels and there should not be any distorting if you follow everyone's advice, we decided to weld in the pieces with the car sitting on its suspension. To that end, I went back and got the car's real wheels, with four brand-new Vredesteins, bolted them up, and left for an anniversary weekend.

Imagine my horror when my welder told me he started to see the door gap close up on the passenger side as he started to plug weld the rossette holes -- following everyone's instructions and following his own experience and being cognizant of this potential problem. That's when he decided to finish the right side with the car on the lift, and do the same with the left side. The left came out GREAT when the car was back on its wheels, but the right side was a bit tight. You could still open and close the door, but it was a bit sticky. So, he jacked up the car at a carefully selected point along the longitudinal under the door, and then heated up the plug welds until we arrived at the right gap.

I'm not saying we got it "right," but it is one more data point in this ongoing saga of learning the best way to add the stiffening kit. And no idiots were working on this. Well, at least if you don't count this one...

I'll add pics of the kit in place and some other progress next time I get down to the shop with a camera. I hope this thread is as useful for some of you as so many of your threads have been for me.

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post Apr 3 2008, 10:18 PM
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Nice to hear about the progress Pete. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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post Apr 4 2008, 12:19 AM
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No doubt this thread is useful! Keep 'em coming Pete... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif)
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post Apr 4 2008, 11:48 AM
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Thank you for posting the pics! I always ask for feedback and am glad to see some. I knew the one hole was close to the dimple on the side that you redrilled – and I will relocate it in future production runs on both sides – Thanks! As to the location of the seat belt mounts – I purposely made it a slot as I have seen the front to back variance. Mc Mark is getting ready to do another install and hopefully he will tell me what he sees here. Based on your comments I will have to be more specific on the welding procedure to make sure that the welds are done in a manner to disperse the heat better.

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post Apr 4 2008, 04:08 PM
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I installed my kit last year. Went in like butter, I listened to no one because I think I am a 914 God. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) But either way, my 914 turned out perfect and it made a HUGE difference in the feel of the car.

Great kit Eggman. Trust me when I speak for all of us when I say we appreciate all that you put into your products. Thier quality speaks for your skills and attention to detail.

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post Apr 4 2008, 10:42 PM
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Mark,

I too think your kit rocks! And I think John's words were "this guy makes the kit TOO well (referencing the time it took him to get it to fit perfectly, but in a good way)." I think he was impressed by the way that you have done this kit, and appear to be laser-cutting it.

I can't wait to drive my car with it in place!

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post Apr 4 2008, 11:52 PM
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Thanks - but I am always on the lookout to improve what I make. Your feedback makes that possible! For that I thank you, and future owners of my products will too!

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post Apr 7 2008, 01:55 PM
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Kit in place...




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post Apr 7 2008, 01:58 PM
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post Apr 7 2008, 01:59 PM
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Bulk of sills are still Bahia thanks to the aluminum thresholds...


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Once the jack-post boxes were cut away, we found solid metal. But rust was at work. I decided to eliminate the boxes, as they failed long ago in a scary way and always seems like the "catch" point for dirt and moisture.

I carry a scissors jack these days....


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and the left side...


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So this is where the car stands today. Just a little more work and it's off to paint...




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And from the rear. Man those 165s on steelies are killin' me! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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In my ongoing struggle with Bahia vs. Toronado, I've taken a bunch of pictures of the few areas I've found that are factory original Bahia and untouched by the sun all these years. I suspect this would be of use not only to me, as I have had a tough time finding anything useful online when it comes to color comparisons. Of course, online color judging is inherently flawed, but...

Anyway, out of respect for bandwidth, am I committing a party foul by posting a bunch of them? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

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post Apr 7 2008, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Apr 7 2008, 01:40 PM) *



Anyway, out of respect for bandwidth, am I committing a party foul by posting a bunch of them? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

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Just be sure to post them vertically - as opposed to horizontally (sorry, I couldn't help posting that).
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