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anyone know the weight of a bare shell? |
rick 918-S |
Feb 10 2008, 11:21 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,460 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I'm toying with the idea of buying a shell off the gold coast. I just want to take my 1/2 ton pick up out to get it without the trailer. I know I can build a rack over the box rails that will support it. But how much does one weigh?
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HAM Inc |
Feb 10 2008, 12:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-July 06 From: Watkinsville,GA Member No.: 6,499 Region Association: None |
A totally stripped tub ready to be acid dipped weighs around 500lbs.
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rick 918-S |
Feb 10 2008, 01:02 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,460 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Cool thanks!
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jred98rt |
Feb 10 2008, 02:23 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Coleman, MI Member No.: 8,693 |
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SirAndy |
Feb 10 2008, 02:43 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,641 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
brad and i carried one out of the shop and onto the trailer. so it can't be that heavy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
once one end was sitting on the trailer, i lifted up the other end and slid it right onto the trailer ... so, 500lbs is probably about right ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy PS: all you need is one finger and a goofy face! Attached thumbnail(s) |
spare time toys |
Feb 10 2008, 05:27 PM
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hooked on grilling food. Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 3-April 04 From: West Plano Tx Member No.: 1,884 Region Association: Southwest Region |
When the Banana was stripped of anything of value me and the boys lifted it onto the trailer with no trouble at all.
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Hydra. |
Apr 21 2008, 03:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 23-July 05 From: www.hydraperformance.com Member No.: 4,457 Region Association: None |
So would it be reasonable to assume that a bare rolling shell (complete with suspension, brakes, steering, and wheels) weighs 800-850lbs? Hasn't anybody actually weighed this?
EDIT: A quick search turned up the following... My `70 weighs 989 lbs as a roller with only the suspension w/wheels, tires & steering wheel/column. It has been otherwise stripped of everything that will unbolt and had the windshield frame cut off and rear glass removed. Though it does have three different heavy colors of paint on it still... Wow... 989lbs seems pretty heavy to me, what do you guys think? |
Mark Henry |
Apr 21 2008, 07:17 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Most of the suspension is solid steel parts...so the weight starts to add up fast.
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degreeoff |
Apr 21 2008, 08:22 AM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
well I would have to say that sounds about right....1000 lbs +(-) as the drive train is 500-600 right? (6cyl w/axles etc) I mean a bare bone ride will be 1900 or so right? Geez I have to get mine up to the truck scales to see what it wieghs...It'll be as bare as one can get with all the FG and lack of interior.
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flat4 |
Apr 21 2008, 08:57 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 13-December 07 From: Australia Member No.: 8,459 |
I know that when you take off the bumpers, trunk lids, windscreen, fuel tank, wheels and then support the vehicle on axle stands located in the jacking points it will be really unstable. Should you climb into the rear trunk to work on the engine the front will lift up in the air and the exhaust will touch the floor.
It might also take you a while to work out what is happening, how the axle stands haven't collapsed, nor have the jacking points collapsed. But once you step out the front will drop back down again. Not that I would ever do this of course. Its just something I somehow know. Steve |
sww914 |
Apr 21 2008, 09:53 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
With the engine and tranny removed mine is light enough in the back that I can just lift it up and slide it sideways a few inches at a time. I can't like lift it up and carry it around, but I can get it up enough to move it sideways. With the drivetrain out there's nothing back there but a breather, an oil cooler, and some LED brake lights.
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r_towle |
Apr 21 2008, 10:10 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
I'm toying with the idea of buying a shell off the gold coast. I just want to take my 1/2 ton pick up out to get it without the trailer. I know I can build a rack over the box rails that will support it. But how much does one weigh? Havent we moved on from this random thought....onto the trike...or the woody...or the merc...or the 928 motor.... Oh, didnt you buy more land on the lake? Start building.... Rich |
horizontally-opposed |
Apr 21 2008, 11:18 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
well I would have to say that sounds about right....1000 lbs +(-) as the drive train is 500-600 right? (6cyl w/axles etc) I mean a bare bone ride will be 1900 or so right? Geez I have to get mine up to the truck scales to see what it wieghs...It'll be as bare as one can get with all the FG and lack of interior. My 1973 914-4 weighed in at 1,591 pounds with: -Both steel lids -Engine lid, headlight lids and trims -Doors less glass and 60 percent of mechanisms -Suspension/brakes/steering/etc -Steel wheels -Engine/transmission -Shift linkage + shifter -SSIs and Abarth muffler -Optima battery -Radio head unit -Heat system (complete) -Fresh air system -Gas tank with 1/2 tank or less -Headlight motors, etc. -Dashtop (but not bottom pad) -Windshield -Back window And without: -Bumpers -Valances -Rubber trim/seals -Seal mounts (aluminum), etc. -Door handles/windows -Lighting (all) -Interior (save dashpad) -Seats -Top Basically, it was a running, driving car. All it needed was for a seat to be bolted in and you could operate it (illegally!). All that said, the 500-lb number for the tub itself is very impressive given how many bulkheads and the all-steel nature of the 914. pete |
Eric_Shea |
Apr 21 2008, 11:51 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE Most of the suspension is solid steel parts...so the weight starts to add up fast. That's why I'm making a full TI suspension. A-arms, rear control arms etc. Should only cost about $30k |
horizontally-opposed |
Apr 21 2008, 01:03 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Most of the suspension is solid steel parts...so the weight starts to add up fast. That's why I'm making a full TI suspension. A-arms, rear control arms etc. Should only cost about $30k I've actually got a TI windshield wiper rack here at the office. I'm told it'll be about $6-8k to make another one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) pete |
horizontally-opposed |
Apr 21 2008, 01:05 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
All that said, one wonders what the ERP front suspension and a blade-type trailing arm might drop in weight?
How about with lightweight calipers (986 or Wilwood -- but bummer about the dust seals on the latter)? pete |
TravisNeff |
Apr 21 2008, 01:10 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Blade type trailing arms? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) do tell..
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Rand |
Apr 21 2008, 01:26 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
That's why I'm making a full TI suspension. A-arms, rear control arms etc. Should only cost about $30k Get Alpha to help. I bet he can source it cheaper. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
GWN7 |
Apr 21 2008, 02:00 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I'm toying with the idea of buying a shell off the gold coast. I just want to take my 1/2 ton pick up out to get it without the trailer. I know I can build a rack over the box rails that will support it. But how much does one weigh? Check the width. If I remember a 914 will fit in the back of a Chevy pickup. On top of the wheel humps. No need to build a rack. |
Todd Enlund |
Apr 21 2008, 02:43 PM
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Resident Photoshop Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,251 Joined: 24-August 07 From: Laurelhurst (Portland), Oregon Member No.: 8,032 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I'm toying with the idea of buying a shell off the gold coast. I just want to take my 1/2 ton pick up out to get it without the trailer. I know I can build a rack over the box rails that will support it. But how much does one weigh? Check the width. If I remember a 914 will fit in the back of a Chevy pickup. On top of the wheel humps. No need to build a rack. I just measured my truck and my car... the car is about 6" too wide to fit in the bed. |
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