That can't be good! Holy mother of melted wires ..., or, what happens when your alternator burns up ... |
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That can't be good! Holy mother of melted wires ..., or, what happens when your alternator burns up ... |
SirAndy |
Feb 10 2008, 06:55 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) got the new alternator and decided to cut back the plastic sheeting around the alternator wires to see how much damage then burned up diode had done.
i guess a lot of current while draining the battery can really produce some heat ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) so, now the $432 dollar question, is there a replacement harness for this or do i have to either get a complete new engine harness or try to replace each wire individually? they're pretty much burned all the way into the main harness. i cut out the worst, but the insulation where i cut them was still very hard and brittle, so i'm guessing the whole of the wires is toast ... this is on the 3.6L engine, btw. ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Andy |
swl |
Feb 10 2008, 07:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,409 Joined: 7-August 05 From: Kingston,On,Canada Member No.: 4,550 Region Association: Canada |
Whoah! That must have been exciting.
You would have to think that the entire wire is fried - it was probably carrying the same current along it's entire length. |
crash914 |
Feb 10 2008, 09:03 PM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
duct tape (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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McMark |
Feb 10 2008, 11:04 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
A new harness is probably expensive, but rebuilding the harness would take all day to do nice and clean (proper connectors, proper wires, proper sheathing). I vote buy.
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Jeff Hail |
Feb 10 2008, 11:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,141 Joined: 3-May 07 From: LA/ CA Member No.: 7,712 |
I am interested in how your system is grounded? A 3.6 carries a significant amount of more amps than a type 4 motor does. Assuming your trans is grounded by the pre-requisite earth strap what about your front motor mount to chassis? Battery negative to chassis and case? It is apparent once the diode went an over-charge condition resulted in the melted insulation.
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Grngoat |
Feb 10 2008, 11:23 PM
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Lurker Member Group: Members Posts: 158 Joined: 17-October 04 From: Fort Worth, TX Member No.: 2,967 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Looks like Rich Johnson is selling a nice new one on ebay. $250.
ebay I seem to remember that there was a recall on the 993 engine harness at some point because of fires. That could've been bad. |
rick 918-S |
Feb 11 2008, 11:25 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,470 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Wow Sir Andy! That's really bad! But that could have really worst! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowtorch.gif) Buy the harness check to see the grounds are good and be done with it.
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SirAndy |
Feb 11 2008, 12:26 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I seem to remember that there was a recall on the 993 engine harness at some point because of fires. That could've been bad. yepp, turns out, my harness is the old one. looks like, the PO never took his car in to have it replaced ... new harness it is! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Andy |
JeffBowlsby |
Feb 11 2008, 02:34 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,522 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Yipes Andy!
If the damage is not too bad, maybe a few wires/casing can be replaced easily enough. The Rich Johnson harness looks like a great deal if you are in a hurry. If you do replace it, would you donate it to me for 914 harness science? |
SirAndy |
Feb 11 2008, 04:44 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
If you do replace it, would you donate it to me for 914 harness science? sure thing ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) a little bird just told me that the new harness from porsche is $775 ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Andy |
crash914 |
Feb 11 2008, 06:58 PM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
can you get a warranty replacement? if this was the defective harness?? worth a try..
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SirAndy |
Feb 11 2008, 10:13 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
can you get a warranty replacement? if this was the defective harness?? worth a try.. nope, no dice. the recall is for the cars. they will only honor the recall if i can give them the VIN of the 993 the engine came out of ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Andy |
SirAndy |
Feb 12 2008, 03:55 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,662 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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picked up the new harness today and i got a smoking deal on it! genuine porsche replacement harness bought directly from the dealer for $115 ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Andy PS: Jeff, please PM me your new address so i can send you the old harness ... |
horizontally-opposed |
Feb 12 2008, 04:54 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
"genuine porsche replacement harness bought directly from the dealer for $115"
Flippin SWEET! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) pete |
McMark |
Feb 12 2008, 05:25 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
That's awesome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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PRS914-6 |
Feb 12 2008, 05:35 PM
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None |
Here is a little more info. There was a recall on the engine harness for 95-96. The dealers had harneses (normally about $800.00) for $115.00 to be billed out for the recall cars. Must have been a bean counter deal. Andy, good job on the score. The recall harness is identical to a harness you would buy except the part # on the box should start with 000. Inside the box is the same harness though with the right part #....go figure
Here is the bulletin info. Those that have 3.6 engines can back-track the engine # to get the VIN number and ultimately see if your engine is suspect. |
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