914-6 Engine Access Panel Ques., Access Panel From Cabin |
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914-6 Engine Access Panel Ques., Access Panel From Cabin |
Chuck |
Mar 10 2008, 11:00 PM
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What it eventually will look like . . . . Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 29-March 07 From: Maple Grove, MN Member No.: 7,632 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I've seen a number of you 6 guys cut a hole in the rear firewall for reaching the engine for timing. Is this necessary? not necessary but nice? not needed? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Doing the rustoration on my teener right now and the 6 is forthcoming. Now would be the time to do it.
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John |
Mar 10 2008, 11:05 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
I've seen a number of you 6 guys cut a hole in the rear firewall for reaching the engine for timing. Is this necessary? not necessary but nice? not needed? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Doing the rustoration on my teener right now and the 6 is forthcoming. Now would be the time to do it. Is your 3.2 Motronic? If so, there is no adjustable timing. However, an access panel in the firewall would be a good thing if your belt were to ever break. Replacement of the belt in the car would be a nightmare. I would probably drop my engine to do it. I never have cut a hole for the access plate. I change the belt every time I have the engine out regardless of condition. just my humble opinions. |
PeeGreen 914 |
Mar 10 2008, 11:21 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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I would just drop the engine, but then again, I don't race wheel to wheel, and if you have a race day and you're out there and your belt breaks you may need that access panel. |
pete-stevers |
Mar 10 2008, 11:28 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
just a good idea......
i cut one this year after trying to tighten a belt with the engine in.....unsucessfully twice and wrecking the pulley from undertightening there may be a couple of guys who will say not to.... but trust me it is just a good idea..... |
Brando |
Mar 11 2008, 01:31 AM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
Boxsters have one... why not?
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RON S. |
Mar 11 2008, 07:12 AM
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9140430841, FINALLY RUNNING Group: Members Posts: 1,211 Joined: 22-May 03 From: WALTERBORO,S.C. Member No.: 724 Region Association: South East States |
I put one in my teener for access to remove my belt. I also had to modify my mount so the belt would easily slip on and off. It is now relatively painless to carry a spare belt and to change it out. Ron |
Root_Werks |
Mar 11 2008, 07:27 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,315 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
You're all wierd. 18 years I have owned like 7-9 converted sixes and never had to cut holes anywhere to change a belt. I agree not the easiest thing in the world to do, but go spend $25 on a couple of hand tools that work and fit in the space provided. I have had to change my fair share of belts too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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ClayPerrine |
Mar 11 2008, 07:40 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,436 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I have only one comment on this thread....
IT IS CALLED A FIREWALL FOR A REASON! IF YOU HAVE AN ENGINE FIRE, YOU WILL NOT WANT A HOLE IN THAT PANEL!!!!! |
brant |
Mar 11 2008, 07:40 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,619 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I really think its only needed on race cars
I have had my panel off multiple times at the track of course I've also had my tranny out and my motor dropped multiple times at the track... (Once I dropped the motor 3 times at the track and still finished the day) Attached thumbnail(s) |
brant |
Mar 11 2008, 07:41 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,619 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
but seriously its a race thing...
If I had an original -6 I wouldn't cut it Attached thumbnail(s) |
thesey914 |
Mar 11 2008, 10:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,155 Joined: 1-January 03 From: Staffordshire -England Member No.: 66 |
Crumbs -how often do belts break?
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Cap'n Krusty |
Mar 11 2008, 10:08 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
I have only one comment on this thread.... IT IS CALLED A FIREWALL FOR A REASON! IF YOU HAVE AN ENGINE FIRE, YOU WILL NOT WANT A HOLE IN THAT PANEL!!!!! On this subject, Clay and I agree 100%. Besides, I remember seeing only ONE broken 911 fan belt in all the years I've been servicing them. |
Brando |
Mar 11 2008, 02:44 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
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crash914 |
Mar 11 2008, 02:54 PM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Here is another view of an access window...
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Rand |
Mar 11 2008, 03:37 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Just because it has an access hole does mean it cannot still be a firewall. Look at Brant's for example. Fire isn't going to shoot through there just because a cover is screwed on vs. an uncut wall. Leaving the hole open might be silly, but an appropriate cover isn't dangerous.
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rfuerst911sc |
Mar 11 2008, 03:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
Crumbs -how often do belts break? It's not just when a belt breaks.....................what about preventative maintenance? If you want to chasnge your belts once a year you can either drop the engine,struggle with limited access or cut the access panel. I know which one I'm going to do......................... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) |
thesey914 |
Mar 11 2008, 05:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,155 Joined: 1-January 03 From: Staffordshire -England Member No.: 66 |
I'll drop the engine + do the valves at the same time. clean behind the tank etc
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Twise |
Mar 11 2008, 06:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 475 Joined: 20-September 06 From: SoCal - Temecula Member No.: 6,881 Region Association: Southern California |
I cut the hole and made a stainless cover for it. Belts break man. It would be very foolish to leave it open.
I got tons of tools - a shop full of them. Please point me to the $25.00 tool that will allow me access to the belt without dropping the motor. I just figured - damn, why not. It's better safe than sorry. I may never pull that cover off, but if I need to, I will be glad its there... |
pete-stevers |
Mar 11 2008, 07:09 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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pete-stevers |
Mar 11 2008, 07:45 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
oh yes one more........ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
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