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> 914-6 Engine Access Panel Ques., Access Panel From Cabin
Chuck
post Mar 10 2008, 11:00 PM
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I've seen a number of you 6 guys cut a hole in the rear firewall for reaching the engine for timing. Is this necessary? not necessary but nice? not needed? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Doing the rustoration on my teener right now and the 6 is forthcoming. Now would be the time to do it.
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post Mar 10 2008, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(Chuck @ Mar 10 2008, 09:00 PM) *

I've seen a number of you 6 guys cut a hole in the rear firewall for reaching the engine for timing. Is this necessary? not necessary but nice? not needed? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Doing the rustoration on my teener right now and the 6 is forthcoming. Now would be the time to do it.



Is your 3.2 Motronic? If so, there is no adjustable timing.

However, an access panel in the firewall would be a good thing if your belt were to ever break.

Replacement of the belt in the car would be a nightmare. I would probably drop my engine to do it. I never have cut a hole for the access plate. I change the belt every time I have the engine out regardless of condition.

just my humble opinions.
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post Mar 10 2008, 11:21 PM
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I would just drop the engine, but then again, I don't race wheel to wheel, and if you have a race day and you're out there and your belt breaks you may need that access panel.
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post Mar 10 2008, 11:28 PM
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just a good idea......
i cut one this year
after trying to tighten a belt with the engine in.....unsucessfully
twice
and wrecking the pulley from undertightening
there may be a couple of guys who will say not to....
but trust me it is just
a good idea.....
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post Mar 11 2008, 01:31 AM
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Boxsters have one... why not?
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post Mar 11 2008, 07:12 AM
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I put one in my teener for access to remove my belt.

I also had to modify my mount so the belt would easily slip on and off.
It is now relatively painless to carry a spare belt and to change it out.

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post Mar 11 2008, 07:27 AM
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You're all wierd. 18 years I have owned like 7-9 converted sixes and never had to cut holes anywhere to change a belt. I agree not the easiest thing in the world to do, but go spend $25 on a couple of hand tools that work and fit in the space provided. I have had to change my fair share of belts too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 11 2008, 07:40 AM
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I have only one comment on this thread....

IT IS CALLED A FIREWALL FOR A REASON! IF YOU HAVE AN ENGINE FIRE, YOU WILL NOT WANT A HOLE IN THAT PANEL!!!!!

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post Mar 11 2008, 07:40 AM
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I really think its only needed on race cars
I have had my panel off multiple times at the track
of course I've also had my tranny out and my motor dropped multiple times at the track... (Once I dropped the motor 3 times at the track and still finished the day)




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post Mar 11 2008, 07:41 AM
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but seriously its a race thing...
If I had an original -6 I wouldn't cut it


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post Mar 11 2008, 10:04 AM
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Crumbs -how often do belts break?
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post Mar 11 2008, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Mar 11 2008, 06:40 AM) *

I have only one comment on this thread....

IT IS CALLED A FIREWALL FOR A REASON! IF YOU HAVE AN ENGINE FIRE, YOU WILL NOT WANT A HOLE IN THAT PANEL!!!!!


On this subject, Clay and I agree 100%. Besides, I remember seeing only ONE broken 911 fan belt in all the years I've been servicing them.
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post Mar 11 2008, 02:44 PM
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I repeat...
BOXSTERS HAVE ONE, WHY NOT?

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I have only one comment on this thread....

IT IS CALLED A FIREWALL FOR A REASON! IF YOU HAVE AN ENGINE FIRE, YOU WILL NOT WANT A HOLE IN THAT PANEL!!!!!

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post Mar 11 2008, 02:54 PM
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Here is another view of an access window...

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post Mar 11 2008, 03:37 PM
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Just because it has an access hole does mean it cannot still be a firewall. Look at Brant's for example. Fire isn't going to shoot through there just because a cover is screwed on vs. an uncut wall. Leaving the hole open might be silly, but an appropriate cover isn't dangerous.
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post Mar 11 2008, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(thesey914 @ Mar 11 2008, 08:04 AM) *

Crumbs -how often do belts break?

It's not just when a belt breaks.....................what about preventative maintenance? If you want to chasnge your belts once a year you can either drop the engine,struggle with limited access or cut the access panel. I know which one I'm going to do......................... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)
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post Mar 11 2008, 05:02 PM
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I'll drop the engine + do the valves at the same time. clean behind the tank etc
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post Mar 11 2008, 06:30 PM
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I cut the hole and made a stainless cover for it. Belts break man. It would be very foolish to leave it open.

I got tons of tools - a shop full of them. Please point me to the $25.00 tool that will allow me access to the belt without dropping the motor.

I just figured - damn, why not. It's better safe than sorry. I may never pull that cover off, but if I need to, I will be glad its there...
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post Mar 11 2008, 07:09 PM
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post Mar 11 2008, 07:45 PM
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