How come there's always one?, Snapped bumper top stud |
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How come there's always one?, Snapped bumper top stud |
KELTY360 |
Apr 19 2008, 10:03 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,031 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Picked up a lightly tweaked chrome bumper with a real nice rubber top today. Three of the nuts easily came off the studs, the fourth snapped with very little force. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
I still have a couple of threads showing on the stud, but I'm not sure where to go from here. How is the stud secured to the rubber? Is it removable? What can I use as a replacement? |
SGB |
Apr 19 2008, 10:16 PM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
I think they are just brazed to a strip of metal - not really screwed into anything. The best thing to do would be to use what is left as base for a new screw- maybe you can find some kind of thin threaded sleeve to use as a connector...
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GWN7 |
Apr 20 2008, 01:39 AM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
The metal strip runs the length of the bumper top and all the bolts are welded to it. When a top looks wavey, that's the metal inside rusting away. The factory never sealed the openings where the bolts come out. All they did was fit rubber washers to fill the space. Water wicks in and along the strip and it starts to rust.
All I can think of to save the top is to cut the head off a 6M bolt and carefully weld it to to whats left of the stud that is sticking out. Wet rags over the bumper top. Use a mig to spot small welds to the two bolt pieces. Weld, let it cool, weld other side, let cool, work around the bolt till its done.... |
rhodyguy |
Apr 20 2008, 07:42 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
marc, go to the hardware store and buy a like threaded bolt 1 3/4-2" long, a new nut, and some 2 part epoxy. drill a small diameter pilot hole into the broken stud and then redrill thru the pilot hole with a bit the same diameter as the stud. go slow. there will be a small black plastic disc surrounding the bolt. it should pop out, don't loose it. enlarge/hog out the area below where the disc was. try not to distort the original size of the bolt hole too much. load the hole about 2/3 full of the epoxy. stick the bolt in. the epoxy should come up just shy of the bottom edge of the bumper top. slip the disc over the bolt. now slip a small piece of plastic wrap over the bolt. this will keep the top from sticking to the bumper. use the bumper to keep the bolt in the proper position. tighten up the 2 adjacent studs, use the nut on the new bolt to set the bolt to the proper depth. hold the new bolt in place while the epoxy sets up. leave it alone for an hour or so. don't pull or wiggle on the bolt to see if it's tight. leave it alone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif). when the epoxy is fully cured it will be like you never failed to let the penetrant work on the stud that broke.
k |
jd74914 |
Apr 20 2008, 09:15 AM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
I have welded studs back on like Bruce suggested and by going slow never burned any rubber. If you go slow no one will ever know when looking at the top from the outside. Kevin's method seems better though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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rhodyguy |
Apr 20 2008, 09:39 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
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KELTY360 |
Apr 20 2008, 10:54 AM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,031 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
don't pull or wiggle on the bolt to see if it's tight. leave it alone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif). when the epoxy is fully cured it will be like you never failed to let the penetrant work on the stud that broke. k ....and you know this how? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Thanks Kevin, since I'm welding challenged that's kind of the direction I was heading, but didn't have it thought out nearly to the level of your procedure. |
rhodyguy |
Jan 28 2009, 10:55 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
it's very simple john. take your time and no one will ever know.
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effutuo101 |
Jan 28 2009, 08:40 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
Jon B did the same thing ealier this week.....
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rhodyguy |
Dec 23 2013, 08:28 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
bump for current fixit thread.
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orthobiz |
Dec 27 2013, 11:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So when installing the bumper top, should you seal the bolt openings to prevent future rust?
Paul The metal strip runs the length of the bumper top and all the bolts are welded to it. When a top looks wavey, that's the metal inside rusting away. The factory never sealed the openings where the bolts come out. All they did was fit rubber washers to fill the space. Water wicks in and along the strip and it starts to rust. |
rhodyguy |
May 6 2016, 08:00 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Regurgitated this for a bumper top stud fix ?.
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Mikey914 |
May 6 2016, 11:08 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,669 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
You could epoxy a piece of threaded rod, but if it is snapped off, it has rusted internally. They were welded onto the metal inside. Will not take much load, but at least you have a few others.
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rhodyguy |
Jul 21 2018, 07:47 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Bump for Phil.
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