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> 914 SHO - who dunit?, I'm going to do it - 3.2L V6 SHO
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post May 6 2008, 11:22 PM
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I thought I read a posting that listed all the different types of 914 conversions done over the years. I saved it but can't find it for some reason.

Anyhow - I remember there being a 914 SHO V6 in the list. Does anyone know who has done one of these - not just thought about it, but actually built one?

I'll go it alone if necessary, but I'd be curious to discuss some approaches with someone who's been there.

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post May 7 2008, 12:22 AM
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Oooooooooooo... this is going to be one of my favorites!

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I was the President of the SHO Club in Chicago. We hosted the national convention back in 94 I think... anywhoo; this is one of my favorite engines of all time.

At one of the first get togethers in 91 or 2 there was a mid-engined 904 looking thing (but not) that had a SHO motor mated to a 901 so... it's doable Whether it will fit in a teener or not, I don't know.

It's been talked about here in the past but I've never seen one.

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post May 7 2008, 12:31 AM
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Maybe Felix's thread is what you were looking for?

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...;hl=SHO++Yamaha
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post May 7 2008, 12:32 AM
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The SHO motor is really really tall. I don't have dimensions, but it's not going to be an easy fit. I don't know if anyone has dry sumped a SHO motor, but that would probably shave quite a bit off the height if you went with an ultra low profile pan.
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post May 7 2008, 12:40 AM
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for us non amuricans, what's a SHO V6 ???

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post May 7 2008, 12:45 AM
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The Ford SHO was a taurus with a high performance motor built by Yamaha. One of the most beautiful intakes ever on a production car. It is reported to be capable of reving to 10,000 rpms without breaking a sweat. Keeping the belts on would probably be a problem if you had the guts to try (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Here's a couple pics to show the height. I doubt a dry sump pan would be enough. It looks like the crankshaft centerline to the top of the intake is too far to fit in a 914 engine bay.


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post May 7 2008, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 6 2008, 10:40 PM) *

for us non amuricans, what's a SHO V6 ???

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Ford SHO...Taurus. Engine was developed (manufactured?) by Mercury Marine and resembles an outboard motor (on its side). When accelerating, it sounds like a boat going down the street!
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post May 7 2008, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 6 2008, 11:40 PM) *

for us non amuricans, what's a SHO V6 ???

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i believe it was a ford high performance v6

it was in the sho taurus back in the early 90's

i think that is correct
(if it is, just a warning, im anti ford biased lol)
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post May 7 2008, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(Wanna9146 @ May 6 2008, 11:46 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 6 2008, 10:40 PM) *

for us non amuricans, what's a SHO V6 ???

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Ford SHO...Taurus. Engine was developed (manufactured?) by Mercury Marine and resembles an outboard motor (on its side). When accelerating, it sounds like a boat going down the street!


The SHO motors were built by Yamaha, where as the 405hp corvette ZR1 LT5 was manufactured by Mercury; also a super cool motor. The LT5 is supposed to be one of the most complex automotive engines ever built.

Here's a pic of a SHO motor in an MGB, so anything is possible.


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post May 7 2008, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(LvSteveH @ May 6 2008, 11:00 PM) *

The SHO motors were built by Yamaha, where as the 405hp corvette ZR1 LT5 was manufactured by Mercury...


Ahh, yes. You are correct, sir. Having owned both in the (way distant) past, my memory is a little fuzzy.

I stand corrected. (But, the SHO sounded like an outboard, while the ZR1 did not!).
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post May 7 2008, 01:07 AM
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it can't be any taller than a sbc.
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post May 7 2008, 03:16 AM
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SHO = Super High Output. Built for Ford by Yamaha in 3.0 and 3.2, both rated at 220 hp. Nice! Get to work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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post May 7 2008, 03:54 AM
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QUOTE(messix @ May 7 2008, 12:07 AM) *

it can't be any taller than a sbc.


In a 914 a chevy 350 measures 20" from the crankshaft centerline to the deck lid. That's just enough room to clear a low profile intake manifold, holley carb and a k&n low profile air cleaner.

It will be interesting to see what the SHO motor measures.
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post May 7 2008, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 6 2008, 10:40 PM) *

for us non amuricans, what's a SHO V6 ???

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Andy

What a beautiful piece of engineering............ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

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post May 7 2008, 07:57 AM
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IMHO, 220 hp isn't enough of a gain to bother with. Your adding hp but the negitive effect is the high roll center change. I'd do a Subi before a Sho. cool intake though.
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post May 7 2008, 09:54 AM
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Weren't there also SHO V8s, also made by Yamaha?

Ah, yes--here's a reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Yamaha_V8_engine

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post May 7 2008, 10:08 AM
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Been tried, It is WAY tall (holes in the decklid, big chunk out of the trunk)

They are also electrical NIGHTMARES, the subbie is bad, but the SHO is worse. Fuel tank temp sensor anyone?

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post May 7 2008, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(LvSteveH @ May 7 2008, 04:54 AM) *

QUOTE(messix @ May 7 2008, 12:07 AM) *

it can't be any taller than a sbc.


In a 914 a chevy 350 measures 20" from the crankshaft centerline to the deck lid. That's just enough room to clear a low profile intake manifold, holley carb and a k&n low profile air cleaner.

It will be interesting to see what the SHO motor measures.


Me too. I have always thought these would be a perfect 914 motor. As said above, once the belt driven things are off they are supposed to be able to clear 9k RPM (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) . The only thing IMHO that would make them a better transplant candidate is if the iron block was aluminum.

As far as power goes, they are supposed to gain a huge amount (20+) of horsepower when the restrictive exhaust is removed and replaced with something else. The other heat thing is that I have heard that the intake manifold is symmetrical so it can be rotated 180 degrees to ease fitment issues.
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post May 7 2008, 10:38 AM
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Damn, that MGC install is KLEEEEN! The SHO engine is a great motor, they really scream.
That said, I would still go with a subie rather than the SHO but as you all know I am a little biased!
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post May 7 2008, 11:38 AM
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When accelerating, it sounds like a boat going down the street!


Maybe from "behind" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif)

The cool thing about the SHO is how seamless the power transition is between the long and short intakes. Way smooth.

Yamaha wanted to purchase my engine as I put 50k on it every year. In my 3rd year of ownership I had 150k on the engine. This is when I met the head designer at Yamaha and he wanted to purchase the motor. The deal eventually fell through but he sent me one of those Shin Yaka??? detailed cutaway drawings as thanks.
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