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Pics needed for Ford solenoid setup |
7275914911 |
Jun 3 2008, 11:26 PM
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Hummmm!!! Group: Members Posts: 756 Joined: 7-May 08 From: Mid-South Member No.: 9,028 Region Association: South East States |
i believe i have seen them on the site but can not find them now. would like to see the wiring inparticular.
thanks in advance for any help jkp |
McMark |
Jun 4 2008, 02:09 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Adding a second relay/solenoid to the circuit is a band-aid. Either your starter is going out or your wiring is old/corroded.
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Gint |
Jun 4 2008, 08:18 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,070 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
That it may be, but on this car it's a bandaid that works flawlessly. It was put on by the PO, so I have no idea why it was installed. But this car has never failed to start.
Anyway, back to the original request. Here's a pic: |
7275914911 |
Jun 4 2008, 08:41 AM
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Hummmm!!! Group: Members Posts: 756 Joined: 7-May 08 From: Mid-South Member No.: 9,028 Region Association: South East States |
That it may be, but on this car it's a bandaid that works flawlessly. It was put on by the PO, so I have no idea why it was installed. But this car has never failed to start. Anyway, back to the original request. Here's a pic: Thanks, Gint.. I to understand it is a "Band-Aid", but that is what I need in the meantime.... JKP |
bbrown |
Jun 4 2008, 10:09 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: 23-December 04 From: ohio Member No.: 3,330 |
What is the part # for Ford solenoid?
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7275914911 |
Jun 4 2008, 10:36 AM
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Hummmm!!! Group: Members Posts: 756 Joined: 7-May 08 From: Mid-South Member No.: 9,028 Region Association: South East States |
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7275914911 |
Jun 4 2008, 04:00 PM
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Hummmm!!! Group: Members Posts: 756 Joined: 7-May 08 From: Mid-South Member No.: 9,028 Region Association: South East States |
Duralast
F496 Starter Solenoid JKP |
bryanc |
Jun 4 2008, 04:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 321 Joined: 9-August 04 From: San Antonio, Tx Member No.: 2,495 Region Association: Southwest Region |
That it may be, but on this car it's a bandaid that works flawlessly. It was put on by the PO, so I have no idea why it was installed. But this car has never failed to start. Anyway, back to the original request. Here's a pic: The ones I've seen were mounted to the back of the engine tin, not the starter.... I don't really agree that it's a band-aid. The relay reduces the amount of current running through your starter switch, thus lengthening the life of the contacts. Also, the kickback current is smaller for the relay than the Porsche starter solenoid, again lengthening the life of the starter switch contacts. |
jimkelly |
Jun 4 2008, 05:03 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
pics
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Gint |
Jun 4 2008, 05:11 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,070 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
That it may be, but on this car it's a bandaid that works flawlessly. It was put on by the PO, so I have no idea why it was installed. But this car has never failed to start. The ones I've seen were mounted to the back of the engine tin, not the starter....Anyway, back to the original request. Here's a pic: I don't really agree that it's a band-aid. The relay reduces the amount of current running through your starter switch, thus lengthening the life of the contacts. Also, the kickback current is smaller for the relay than the Porsche starter solenoid, again lengthening the life of the starter switch contacts. I prefer it on the starter although as I indicated I didn't put it there. And I agree. I like the idea of having a relay in the circuit. And my car always starts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) |
Rand |
Jun 4 2008, 05:18 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Just curious, has anyone seen the starter switch fail because of the contacts having too much current running through them? I've seen many of them fail, but it's usually because of a crack in the plastic casing.
The starter switch is only passing enough current to trigger the solenoid. The solenoid acts as a relay for the starter. I'm with McMark - adding another relay for the solenoid is a band aid. I know, it works. Not dissing it. But personally I would rather clean up the resistance problems than add another widget. I removed the extra relay the PO added to my car and cleaned things up. And my car always starts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Gint |
Jun 4 2008, 05:49 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,070 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Truth be told the one I replaced in this car the day after I bought it (and before driving it home 1000 miles) was cracked. But I still like the idea of a relay in the circuit. I think it's better to have one than not.
And my 914 always starts! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) |
Rand |
Jun 4 2008, 06:05 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
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SLITS |
Jun 4 2008, 07:37 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Just curious, has anyone seen the starter switch fail because of the contacts having too much current running through them? I've seen many of them fail, but it's usually because of a crack in the plastic casing. Have you ever looked at the contacts in a broken switch and seen the black from arcing? Lots of heat generated thru that plastic piece too. I have a car that supplies 12 VDC to the starter, but won't kick the starter (and it has a new switch). Changed solenoids ... same problem. I put the Ford solenoid in ... works perfect. It's the only car I have used the "bandaid" on ... just got tired of cleaning contacts to no avail. |
7275914911 |
Jun 4 2008, 11:18 PM
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Hummmm!!! Group: Members Posts: 756 Joined: 7-May 08 From: Mid-South Member No.: 9,028 Region Association: South East States |
Amazing...
'Band-Aid' or not, it seems to work... I had previously cleaned all ground connections, beefed up tranny to body strap and re-routed battery ground to tranny case(it was grounded on the body by PO who had moved battery to trunk). This seemed to work for a while, BUT. So starter/solenoid was next stop. Ford Solenoid- $10; 4 Ga Strap- $4; 914 that always starts-priceless I went with the spot on the tin instead of on the starter. Looks more stable on the tin. It uses both mounting holes in solenoid! I used screws to mount with the thought of going back later with a helper and replace screws with bolts because of vibration. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) jkp |
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