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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
914-6: Differences from year to year, Updated! Summarized in first post. |
Lavanaut |
Jun 11 2008, 12:52 PM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
After a good amount of info from all sorts of people in response to this thread, I went back and skimmed what I could wrap my head around. Here's what I've come up with (slowly adding links to pics as I have time):
Items in green are the most-recently added. Items in red have been recently updated/changed due to new information. Cowl-to-Fender Seam: absent (metal-filled) or empty for very early 70 (up to #49), rubber seam thereafter. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Ignition Switch: on dash, left of column for 70 & 71, on right side of column for 72 Interior Mirror: small version for 70 and 71, larger for 72 Dash Top: wide opening for glovebox for 70 & 71, narrower for 72 (to accommodate dash vents) Dash Vents: Absent for 70 & 71, present for 72 Door Panels: smooth vinyl for 70 & 71, basketweave for 72 Glove Box: wide for 70 & 71, narrow for 72 (to accommodate dash vents) Main Wiring Harness: hybrid /4-/6 harness for 72 cars Passenger Foot Rest ("dogbone"): present in 70 & 71, replaced with foam pad on bulkhead for 72 cars Passenger Seat: fixed for 70 & 71, moveable for 72 Rear Bumper: squared off for 70 and early 71, rounded for later 71 and 72 Seat Inserts: smooth vinyl for 71, basketweave for 70 & 72 Seatbelts: non-retractable for all years Steering Column: /4 steering column for 72 cars If you know of further differences, please post to this thread and I'll include them in this list. Please include a picture if you can and I'll link to it from here. And thanks to everyone who's contributed! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Reid This post has been edited by Lavanaut: Oct 15 2008, 07:07 PM |
Lavanaut |
Jun 11 2008, 10:37 PM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
You going to come up to the WCR? Oh how I wish I could make it. Been planning a week-long trip to Montana with the family, the week before, for the past year. Can't do both. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
Gustl |
Jun 11 2008, 11:37 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,504 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
So if I'm not mistaken, the interior of the '70 Sixes were a flavor of basketweave (the door panels, seat inserts, etc.) and the '71s and '72s had the leather look, smooth finish. Is this correct? almost correct only the MY'71 cars had the very-similar-to-real-leather interior the MY'72 had the - more or less - identically interior than the MY'70 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl |
Lavanaut |
Jun 11 2008, 11:44 PM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Ahhhh...nice Gustl, thanks. This should probably be your thread anyway!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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lagunero |
Jun 12 2008, 01:17 AM
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Donkey Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,042 Joined: 8-January 04 From: orange county,ca Member No.: 1,531 |
Anyone else out there wanna break my balls for starting this topic? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
6freak |
Jun 12 2008, 10:27 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Anyone else out there wanna break my balls for starting this topic? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) holy crap you guys just need to drop your pants and see who has the biggest DICK and then you will have a winner (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) ...I have noticed just about every 914 i look at is differant in some way shape or form.Thats what makes them so unique too all the other run of the mill 250k+ built a year cars. the sixs where almost basterd cars put togather with whatever Porsche had on the shelf just to get them out the door .....1969 engines in72cars some 71suspentions in72cars . there just all differant and no ones really wrong about whats on there car they know what they have.So let up! just because you have leather and i dont doesnt make mine wrong and yours right.I have two outside mirrors you may not so is yours wrong no its just differant .I have no radio and not even a hole to put it in .do you ?.there all differant sometimes strange but thats why we love them so much.And with the people its the same way some get it right and some get it wrong but we are all learning that why we ask ?s......Be good and have a nice day |
Gustl |
Jun 12 2008, 11:38 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,504 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
[...] put togather with whatever Porsche had on the shelf just to get them out the door .....1969 engines in72cars some 71suspentions in72cars . there just all differant and no ones really wrong about whats on there car they know what they have. they put an "old" engine in the 914-6 just for the reason that the 914-6 shouldn't beat the new 911 model - if these 2 cars had the same engine, the 914-6 would have been faster than the 911T (well, it was even faster with the old 2.0 engine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) ) - and this was an absolute no from Porsche Be good and have a nice day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
smontanaro |
Jun 12 2008, 12:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Evanston, IL Member No.: 4,197 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
only the MY'71 cars had the very-similar-to-real-leather interior the MY'72 had the - more or less - identically interior than the MY'70 So you're saying that the basket weave door panels on my '70 are actually correct? Edit: in the next couple days I'll check all my interior upholstery and post whether it is smooth or basket weave. Skip |
Gustl |
Jun 12 2008, 12:27 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,504 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
So you're saying that the basket weave door panels on my '70 are actually correct? no, I didn't say that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I was just talking about the material - not the surface structure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) MY'70 - leatherette or geniune leather at additional cost MY'71 - leatherette => this one is very similar to geniune leather MY'72 - leatherette MY'73 - leatherette MY'74 - leatherette MY'75 - leatherette (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl |
Eric_Shea |
Jun 12 2008, 12:30 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
MY08 - 3.6 engines
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Eric_Shea |
Jun 12 2008, 12:34 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
My MY70 - smooth finish on the door panels.
QUOTE Anyone else out there wanna break my balls for starting this topic? Pick me! Pick me! Pick me! You're a LOSER for starting such a topic. What the hell were you thinking?!?!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
Gustl |
Jun 12 2008, 12:35 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,504 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
So you're saying that the basket weave door panels on my '70 are actually correct? from my knowledge: MY'70 - smooth surface MY'71 - smooth surface MY'72 - basket weave MY'73 - basket weave MY'74 - basket weave MY'75 - basket weave (wider pattern) MY'76 - basket weave (wider pattern) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl |
Lavanaut |
Jun 12 2008, 12:45 PM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE Anyone else out there wanna break my balls for starting this topic? Pick me! Pick me! Pick me! You're a LOSER for starting such a topic. What the hell were you thinking?!?!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) ...geez Eric, what took you so long? Busy selling off parts or what? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bandit.gif) MY'70 - smooth surface MY'71 - smooth surface MY'72 - basket weave I stand corrected on the MY '70 cars. Thought I'd read elsewhere that they were basketweave. Lots of good info surfacing here. I'll try to summarize in one place this evening. |
burton73 |
Jun 12 2008, 12:53 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,524 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
Early cars had a finished cowl to fender seam, no black rubber filler strip. i don't think that's true for any of the production cars. i have seen that on some of the prototypes, but never on a production car ... George is correct. Quoting from the factory bulletin: effective from 4702900444 and 9140430052 fender beadings are inserted between the fender and cowl So this is not a difference between 914/4 and 914/6, only an early vs late instance. It is very clear that my car 9140430041 has fender beading. So what is up with that? Bob Burton |
SirAndy |
Jun 12 2008, 01:09 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
It is very clear that my car 9140430041 has fender beading. So what is up with that? that was my point all along. it looks like even the early *production* cars had the fender to cowl seam. however, they did not come with the plastic seal that goes inside the seam. the only factory car without the seam that i have seen in person is 914.114, which is a '68 prototype ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Andy |
mel reckling |
Jun 12 2008, 01:23 PM
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So if I'm not mistaken, the interior of the '70 Sixes were a flavor of basketweave (the door panels, seat inserts, etc.) and the '71s and '72s had the leather look, smooth finish. Is this correct? Except for when they're cloth inserts like this. The door panels aren't smooth either. Attached image(s) |
Gustl |
Jun 12 2008, 01:46 PM
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Thought I'd read elsewhere that they were basketweave. don't mix up the surface of the door panels with the structure (and material) of the seat inlays - that's a completely different thing I will provide more info about that tomorrow now I'm in a hurry ... EURO CHAMPIONSHIP Soccer ... in Austria ... AUSTRIA vs. Poland ... ciao guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
Eric_Shea |
Jun 12 2008, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE the only factory car without the seam that i have seen in person is 914.114, which is a '68 prototype ... #11 is w/o the seam. |
Gustl |
Jun 13 2008, 08:36 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,504 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
MY'70 - smooth surface MY'71 - smooth surface MY'72 - basket weave I stand corrected on the MY '70 cars. Thought I'd read elsewhere that they were basketweave. MY'70 seat inlays (only in colour of trim) - leatherette basket weave - or geniune leather basket weave at additional cost - corduroy - dog tooth check fabric MY'71 seat inlays (only in colour of trim) - leatherette perforated - corduroy fabric MY'72 seat inlays (only in colour of trim) - leatherette basket weave - corduroy fabric MY'73 seat inlays (only in colour of trim) - leatherette basket weave - corduroy fabric MY'74 seat inlays (only in colour of trim) - leatherette basket weave - corduroy fabric MY'75 seat inlays (only in colour of trim) - leatherette basket weave - corduroy fabric - only with appearance group: 9 different tartan styles, but only available with specific exterior colour combos from my best knowledge the same for MY'76 - but no proof from my side ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl |
6freak |
Jun 13 2008, 08:47 AM
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MY'70 - smooth surface MY'71 - smooth surface MY'72 - basket weave I stand corrected on the MY '70 cars. Thought I'd read elsewhere that they were basketweave. MY'70 seat inlays (only in colour of trim) - leatherette basket weave - or geniune leather basket weave at additional cost - corduroy - dog tooth check fabric MY'71 seat inlays (only in colour of trim) - leatherette perforated - corduroy fabric MY'72 seat inlays (only in colour of trim) - leatherette basket weave - corduroy fabric MY'73 seat inlays (only in colour of trim) - leatherette basket weave - corduroy fabric MY'74 seat inlays (only in colour of trim) - leatherette basket weave - corduroy fabric MY'75 seat inlays (only in colour of trim) - leatherette basket weave - corduroy fabric - only with appearance group: 9 different tartan styles, but only available with specific exterior colour combos from my best knowledge the same for MY'76 - but no proof from my side ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl IM SO CONFUSED (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
SirAndy |
Jun 13 2008, 12:15 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE the only factory car without the seam that i have seen in person is 914.114, which is a '68 prototype ... #11 is w/o the seam. got a picture of that? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
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