914-6: Differences from year to year, Updated! Summarized in first post. Options

[PeeGreen 914]

Sounds good to me T.C. Let me know.

[gms]

Early cars had a finished cowl to fender seam, no black rubber filler strip.

i don't think that's true for any of the production cars. i have seen that on some of the prototypes, but never on a production car ...

George is correct. Quoting from the factory bulletin: effective from 4702900444 and 9140430052 fender beadings are inserted between the fender and cowl
So this is not a difference between 914/4 and 914/6, only an early vs late instance.

It is very clear that my car 9140430041 has fender beading. So what is up with that?

Bob Burton

The important difference is that the cowl and fenders were changed after 4702900444/9140430052 my car (914.043.0012) had the black bead in it but this was most likely done by the PO, 914.043.0011 is leaded.

I have attached 2 photo the red one is 914.043.0012. note the contour of the fender edge and the width between the a-pillar and the seam.

[gms]

here is #41 marked up

[gms]

Here is 914.043.0035 it had a filled seam

[Lavanaut]

I have attached 2 photo the red one is 914.043.0012.

Is that bahia red? Original color?

I came up with a few more:

1. Dash vents were introduced in 72 which meant:
2. The glove box got narrower
3. The dash top had a narrower opening for the (now narrower) glove box

Also the rear view mirror (interior) is tiny in the 70 cars and may have been used in early 71 cars but I haven't been able to confirm that... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Reid

[smontanaro]

Also the rear view mirror (interior) is tiny in the 70 cars and may have been used in early 71 cars but I haven't been able to confirm that...

Got dimensions for "tiny" and not tiny? Maybe a side-by-side pic?

Thx,

Skip

[gms]

I have attached 2 photo the red one is 914.043.0012.

Is that bahia red? Original color?

The color is Guards Red, silver was the original color.

[Lavanaut]

Got dimensions for "tiny" and not tiny? Maybe a side-by-side pic?

Actually yeah, I can do dimensions and a side-by-side here in the next couple weeks. I'll post back here when I can.

What I'd like to do for this thread is do a side-by-side (or at least picture-by-picture) example for all of the differences discussed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

[Lavanaut]

Thanks to Rusty for moving this topic to the originality forum! Pat pointed out early-on that it should have been started here in the first place, and I ended up agreeing. My bad.

Hopefully we can continue to add to it!

Reid

[sixerdon]

Does a thread like this already exist? I did check in the "Originality and History" forum, but didn't find it there.

Thanks

After a good amount of info from all sorts of people added to this thread, I went back and skimmed what I could wrap my head around. Here's what I've come up with (slowly adding links to pics as I have time):

Cowl-to-Fender Seam: absent (metal-filled) or empty for very early 70 (up to #49), rubber seam thereafter. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
Ignition Switch: on dash, left of column for 70 & 71, on right side of column for 72
Interior Mirror: small version for 70, larger for 71 & 72
Dash Top: wide opening for glovebox for 70 & 71, narrower for 72 (to accommodate dash vents)
Dash Vents: Absent for 70 & 71, present for 72
Door Panels: smooth vinyl for 70 & 71, basketweave for 72
Glove Box: wide for 70 & 71, narrow for 72 (to accommodate dash vents)
Main Wire Harness: /4 harness for 72 cars
Passenger Seat: fixed for 70 & 71, moveable for 72
Rear Bumper: squared off for 70 and early 71, rounded for later 71 and 72
Seat Inserts: smooth vinyl for 71, basketweave for 70 & 72
Seatbelts: non-retractable for 70 & 71, retractable for 72
Steering Column: /4 steering column for 72 cars

If you know of further differences, please post to this thread and I'll include them in this list. And thanks to everyone who's contributed! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Reid

Reid,
I totally missed your ensemble of differences you've now listed on the front end of this thread since it got moved here from the garage. Not sure if anybody else saw this or not. A few items I'd like to address;
I have two '71 parts cars. Both have the small mirrors.
The early seat belts were installed in most '72's until about June of that year. See Mel Rekling's '72 six interior pictures.
The broad statement of the main wiring harness being the same as the /4 needs a lot of clarification. I would say that it could be the same as a ROW /4 from the dash forward, but from the dash back to the engine is quite different because of the engines. Again, as has been stated before, the '72 /6 is a ROW car and wasn't officially imported.
And......don't forget the foot rest in the '70 & '71 cars. The carpets are also different in a '72 with a foam block on the front bulkhead replacing the foot rest.
Really, the bottom line here is that the basic body and trim is a /4, the basic mechanicals are /6. (Even then I don't like that broad statement) The '72 six is unique to itself and very rare in this country.
Anyway, keep working on this thread. I'm sure more can be added from others.

Don

[Lavanaut]

Reid,
I totally missed your ensemble of differences you've now listed on the front end of this thread since it got moved here from the garage. Not sure if anybody else saw this or not.

Good point Don. I've updated the topic's title, hopefully it'll help.

I have two '71 parts cars. Both have the small mirrors.

My '71 does too, good catch.

The early seat belts were installed in most '72's until about June of that year. See Mel Rekling's '72 six interior pictures.

Really? How does that work with an adjustable seat? Or were the seats not adjustable for the whole MY 72?

The broad statement of the main wiring harness being the same as the /4 needs a lot of clarification. I would say that it could be the same as a ROW /4 from the dash forward, but from the dash back to the engine is quite different because of the engines.

I've updated the wording on this one to try to be more specific. Let me know if you think I've still not captured it correctly.

And......don't forget the foot rest in the '70 & '71 cars. The carpets are also different in a '72 with a foam block on the front bulkhead replacing the foot rest.

Added!

Anyway, keep working on this thread. I'm sure more can be added from others.

That's my hope as well. Thanks for your contributions Don. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Reid

[Lavanaut]

Mel has confirmed that the seatbelts in his '72 are non-retractable, so it looks like they were for all the sixes.

thanks Mel!

[mel reckling]

Here's a shot, sorry it came out so bad.

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