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> 914 air conditioning, What to do folks?
southernmost914
post Jul 30 2008, 06:34 PM
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Photo of same brackets and Sanden 505:
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post Jul 30 2008, 09:48 PM
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I too used a York to Sanded adapter on a DPD system which we converted to 134a. We modified the brackets to allow for an easier adjustment and less hardware. All new barrier hoses were used with the new compressor. The system works great with 40 deg. vent temperatures at higher RPM. Only problem is engine is a 1972 1.7L and not a lot of HP. Had to rig up an additional air valve to get more air on idle as car would die from the load.

Hope the picture help.

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post Jul 30 2008, 10:18 PM
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Did you have to have any idler pulleys with this last set up? I have adapted a Sanden compressor to a York Mount that came with a parts car. This adapter had a small idler pulley that ran under the bottom side of the belt, just inside the compressor. I assumed this was needed to provide clearance, but was wondering from your photos if it was really needed. I plan to rework my mount the next time I have to remove the engine, to something similar to what you have, as it looks to be much easier to adjust the belt tension. Thanks for sharing the photos. JoeO
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post Jul 30 2008, 11:15 PM
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And then there's Option C


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post Jul 30 2008, 11:18 PM
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Seriously...here's a shot of body work up front where the condensor goes..This is the strongest and cleanest setup I've seen...not mine, but getting ready to do mine this way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)


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post Jul 31 2008, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(Joe Owensby @ Jul 30 2008, 08:18 PM) *

Did you have to have any idler pulleys with this last set up? I have adapted a Sanden compressor to a York Mount that came with a parts car. This adapter had a small idler pulley that ran under the bottom side of the belt, just inside the compressor. I assumed this was needed to provide clearance, but was wondering from your photos if it was really needed. I plan to rework my mount the next time I have to remove the engine, to something similar to what you have, as it looks to be much easier to adjust the belt tension. Thanks for sharing the photos. JoeO


If you notice we did not even use the York bracket to which the Sanden adapter was to mount. We just drilled a couple of extra holes on the adapter itself and made the slotted adjustment pieces. Yes our original York mount had a idler pulley. On this new setup we had to slightly modify the oil cooler bracket for clearance, but otherwise no other mods for the belt to clear. It took several attempts to finally get the right belt length for proper adjustment. By eliminating the York bracket we also saved some weight and space.

In a later post there is a picture of the front truck reinforcement frame. We also did the same thing and welded in a 1/2" square tubing frame to "fix" the hack job the dealer had done when the car was new.

About the only other upgrade we might do in the future to the stock DPD system is to replace the original fan and motor on the condensor with a "SPAL" multi-blade fan for more air flow.

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Thanks for the info. This will be a big help when I clean up my installation. JoeO
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post Jul 31 2008, 09:20 PM
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How is the belt run on these systems???

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post Aug 19 2008, 11:01 PM
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The aftermarket system on my parts car had a small (maybe 6" diameter) pulley located behind the cooling fan. It replaced the washer/spacer behind the fan. the belt runs out the passenger side of the car, just in front of the oil cooler. Mine had a small idler pulley just below the pulleyon thecompressor. I am not sure if this was to tension the belt, or to raise it a little for clearance purposes. It actually contacted the "V" belt on the outer surface and raised the belt up a little. JoeO
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post Feb 3 2019, 06:18 PM
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For anyone using this for reference as I did. My car has the VPC system. I got a Sanden 505 and York to Sanden bracket. I had to cut a slot in the bracket to make it work but it put the pulley almost in the exact same location. I got the stock size belt to fit but it is tight with none of the adjustment spacers installed. I would have purchased a one inch longer belt had I known. Now I just need to replace the hoses and charge the system.


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post Feb 3 2019, 06:29 PM
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Oh and another thing I learned. I noticed the bracket connected to the engine was loose when I was taking things apart. I thought the nuts were just loose but it was there were rubber bushings that completely disinagrated. I was able to use some rubber hose to replace them.
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post Feb 3 2019, 08:24 PM
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Here is the belt I used. It worked but was tight.


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post Feb 7 2019, 04:19 PM
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Lots of good info and ideas on this thread:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=192917&hl=
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post Feb 7 2019, 08:07 PM
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Unfortunately, moisture in the air condenses when temperatures drop below the dew point. This means you end up with the wet seat literally, you need an evaporator coil in a box with a drain to carry condensate out of the cars interior.

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A more helpful parts store might have a picture/spec book for compressors that you could look through and find something. Or, you can search for other cars which used that same unit and see if someone else found anything. That compressor is not a 914 specific part, so it was undoubtedly used on other cars. Or there is always the idea of making an adapter plate.

I was just thinking about this today, and had a brainstorm. Run fluid lines inside of the seat upholstery, run a tiny A/C setup that will cool a fluid tank instead of cooling air, then pump the chilly fluid through the seats. I would think that the size of the A/C system would be very small. Maybe even small enough to run an electric compressor... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post May 21 2019, 11:17 AM
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Has anyone used the 914 retrofit system from Classic Auto Air? Would love to see a pic of the installation.

https://www.classicautoair.com/shop/1975-po...tioning-system/
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post May 21 2019, 12:01 PM
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we are about to do two 914 installations in the next two weeks

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Has anyone used the 914 retrofit system from Classic Auto Air? Would love to see a pic of the installation.

https://www.classicautoair.com/shop/1975-po...tioning-system/
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post May 21 2019, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(ejmetz @ May 21 2019, 12:17 PM) *

Has anyone used the 914 retrofit system from Classic Auto Air? Would love to see a pic of the installation.

https://www.classicautoair.com/shop/1975-po...tioning-system/



Don't know if you realized it, but the link (that you added) has TWO pictures and the second one shows it installed in a 914. Hopefully someone else will show us another install, for variety..

For me - I wish all the venting wasn't on the passenger's side.
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post May 21 2019, 06:30 PM
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Numerous existing threads in this topic. Here is one.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;hl=Compressor
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