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Are they worth parting out?, What are the big ticket items worth? |
FriarJohn |
Jun 18 2008, 06:31 PM
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Non-914-Owner Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 29-January 03 Member No.: 211 Region Association: None |
I've been trying to sell my 914s for years with barely a couple of tire-kickers to show for it. I recently posted them yet again in the classifieds here and on that other site. I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's worth the trouble to part them out, or cut the price further or just let them rot away.
So, what do y'all think a '73 2.0 liter long block worth that used to run good but has been sitting for 10 years? And for that matter, what's the best way to ship an engine, on a palette? What about a set of 15x7" 8-spoke Panasport wheels? And a complete interior in black vinyl (nauga) gray velour inserts? And a set of dual Weber 40IDFs? Again, I haven't decided whether or not I'm parting them out, I'm just trying to get a feel for some values. |
SLITS |
Jun 18 2008, 06:57 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
I've been trying to sell my 914s for years with barely a couple of tire-kickers to show for it. I recently posted them yet again in the classifieds here and on that other site. I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's worth the trouble to part them out, or cut the price further or just let them rot away. So, what do y'all think a '73 2.0 liter long block worth that used to run good but has been sitting for 10 years? And for that matter, what's the best way to ship an engine, on a palette?If it turns 360 degrees .... $400. If it's frozen ... $250. Strap it to a pallet and shrink wrap it. What about a set of 15x7" 8-spoke Panasport wheels?Real Panasports? ... don't really know .... And a complete interior in black vinyl (nauga) gray velour inserts?$200 - $300 if no rips or wear ... seats and door panels sell first. And a set of dual Weber 40IDFs?With linkage, manifolds .... $300 Again, I haven't decided whether or not I'm parting them out, I'm just trying to get a feel for some values. Those are my opinions and I know that others have sold their stuff for more money, but you asked. And to maximize exposure ... go the eBay route. |
FriarJohn |
Jun 19 2008, 11:24 AM
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Non-914-Owner Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 29-January 03 Member No.: 211 Region Association: None |
Thanks. You mostly confirmed what I was thinking, although I was hoping for a little more on the engine. It should still turn over, but I'll have to get it out of the car to check. The Panasports are "real," but one piece, cast. I'm hoping for at least a few hundred out of those.
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914Sixer |
Jun 19 2008, 03:50 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,883 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Tight money, makes for lower prices sometimes. Then there are those that will pay any price.
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McMark |
Jun 19 2008, 04:20 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I mostly skip over ads that don't name a price. Just sharing an outside perspective.
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FriarJohn |
Jun 19 2008, 05:24 PM
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Non-914-Owner Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 29-January 03 Member No.: 211 Region Association: None |
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Krieger |
Jun 19 2008, 07:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,712 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
If your heads are in good shape they are worth more than $400. you may want to pull them off, then they are easier to ship and sell. Interior stuff seems to sell locally.
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Todd Enlund |
Jun 19 2008, 08:44 PM
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Resident Photoshop Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,251 Joined: 24-August 07 From: Laurelhurst (Portland), Oregon Member No.: 8,032 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Personally, I think that the body mods on the '73 severely limit your market. The fact that you are in Montana limits your market. I hate to see good cars parted out, but...
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E-Man |
Jun 20 2008, 08:07 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 158 Joined: 4-March 03 From: S. Windsor, CT Member No.: 390 |
Can you send a photo (or photos) of the Panasports? I'm interested. -Mike
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boxstr |
Jun 20 2008, 09:07 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Maybe now is the time to post this in the classifieds again. Seems that some interest has been raised.
ANd pics and prices will always help sell, that is what you are doing, so give a potential buyer everything they need to make a decision. CCLINGYM |
nsr-jamie |
Jun 20 2008, 09:19 AM
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914 guy in Japan Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Nagoya, Japan Member No.: 8,305 Region Association: None |
put it on the bay
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ericread |
Jun 20 2008, 09:23 AM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
I agree that you should consider listing these on eBay with a minimum. It doesn't cost that much and you will get a much wider audience.
Eric Read |
dbgriffith75 |
Jun 20 2008, 10:34 AM
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TheGrif Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 25-July 07 From: Iowa, USA Member No.: 7,945 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I think you should do whatever you feel like doing. If you'd rather sell it as a whole, do it; if you're feeling ambitious enough to part it out, go for that.
If you do sell the engine seperate, you're going to have to truck ship it. Even if you could package it well enough to survive UPS or Fed Ex, it's way heavier than their weight limits allow for ground ship. I agree with Slits that you should band and shrink wrap it to a skid, but there's a certain way to do it so as to minimize the risk of damage in transit. I work for a trucking company, both as a driver and a dock worker, and I can't even begin to list the damages I've seen to freight because of inadequate packaging practices. Below you'll find a diagram of the proper way to band/strap the engine: It's pretty self explanatory. From the top view, the banding should run under the pallet as close to the engine as possible. Not all the way underneath- feed it between the space of the pallet. Hence the side view to give you a better idea of what I mean. Running the banding all the way to the edge increases the chances that it will be broken in transit, because it doesn't matter how careful a forklift operator is, skids get damaged; and if you run the banding all the way to the edge then the end boards get busted and the banding becomes useless. The engine is then just loosely floating around on the skid, and it will likely fall off in transit. If you ship the engine w/ the sheet metal in tact, I advise placing some kind of spacer over the top of the engine (2x4's are common) so that the banding does not contact the sheet metal, but is still binding the engine to the skid. One thing I've seen places that ship used engines do is to put an old tire on the skid, then place the engine on top of the tire. It's mostly on engines w/ oil pans to make up the difference of the curve in the oil pan, but it also acts as a shock absorber since trailers can do a lot of bouncing moving down the road. It's up to you whether you want to do this or not. And then: SHRINK WRAP! SHRINK WRAP! SHRINK WRAP! I cannot stress this enough. This is one of the most underestimated packaging practices I've seen. Inadequate shrink wrap is one of the primary reasons why freight gets damaged- because customers think that one or two thin layers of shrink wrap is sufficient enough to hold a 7' high, 2000 pound skid together for the rigors of transport. Obviously the motor won't be that big, but you get my point. And then, take pictures of it packaged before you ship it. Print copies to send to the buyer w/ the freight, and keep copies for yourself. Make sure to place them somewhere ON THE ENGINE, not on the shrink wrap, so that if for some reason the shrink wrap is removed during transit the buyer still has them. This way if the engine is damaged in transit, the buyer knows what it looked like when it was picked up, and can file a claim w/ the carrier instead of coming back on you for reimbursement. That's all the advice I can give you right now. And for you and anybody else that has items they need to truck ship, don't be afraid to ask me how to properly package it if you're not sure. I personally hate trying to deliver freight that's damaged to a customer because it sends the message "We don't care about your freight." and that's just bad for business. Good luck in whatever you decide to do w/ your car(s). |
FriarJohn |
Jun 21 2008, 10:26 AM
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Non-914-Owner Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 29-January 03 Member No.: 211 Region Association: None |
Can you send a photo (or photos) of the Panasports? I'm interested. -Mike I'll let you know if I part them out. Pictures here. Maybe now is the time to post this in the classifieds again. Seems that some interest has been raised. ANd pics and prices will always help sell, that is what you are doing, so give a potential buyer everything they need to make a decision. CCLINGYM I did post it, right here. If I part them out I'll delete it and put it in the part classifieds, with prices. |
FriarJohn |
Jun 21 2008, 10:51 AM
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Non-914-Owner Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 29-January 03 Member No.: 211 Region Association: None |
I think you should do whatever you feel like doing. If you'd rather sell it as a whole, do it; if you're feeling ambitious enough to part it out, go for that. If you do sell the engine seperate, you're going to have to truck ship it... Thanks! That's a loot of good info. |
RJMII |
Jun 21 2008, 12:19 PM
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Jim McIntosh Group: Members Posts: 3,125 Joined: 11-September 07 From: Sandy, Utah Member No.: 8,112 Region Association: None |
I think you should do whatever you feel like doing. If you'd rather sell it as a whole, do it; if you're feeling ambitious enough to part it out, go for that. If you do sell the engine seperate, you're going to have to truck ship it. Even if you could package it well enough to survive UPS or Fed Ex, it's way heavier than their weight limits allow for ground ship. I agree with Slits that you should band and shrink wrap it to a skid, but there's a certain way to do it so as to minimize the risk of damage in transit. I work for a trucking company, both as a driver and a dock worker, and I can't even begin to list the damages I've seen to freight because of inadequate packaging practices. Below you'll find a diagram of the proper way to band/strap the engine: Thanks for posting that! I just packaged up a bottem end of a 2.0 to ship and built a simliar setup inside the box to hold the engine block into place. then once inside the box, it was pretty much stable, I put 3 extra layers of cardboard inside, then extra foam, then another super thick layer of cardboard up top and taped it shut. The box is SOLID, and going fed ex ground for less than $100. |
dbgriffith75 |
Jun 22 2008, 12:43 PM
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TheGrif Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 25-July 07 From: Iowa, USA Member No.: 7,945 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'm glad my advice helped you guys out. Sounds like you went the extra mile on packaging yours RJMII, which is a good thing.
Like I say, sometimes it doesn't matter how careful a forklift operator is- damages happen. But by doing what you can to help protect the shipment is one more step to prevent damage. And once again, if anybody isn't sure how to package something for truck ship, don't be afraid to ask. I'm more than happy to tell you what I know. |
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