Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Are they worth parting out?, What are the big ticket items worth?
FriarJohn
post Jun 18 2008, 06:31 PM
Post #1


Non-914-Owner
**

Group: Members
Posts: 134
Joined: 29-January 03
Member No.: 211
Region Association: None



I've been trying to sell my 914s for years with barely a couple of tire-kickers to show for it. I recently posted them yet again in the classifieds here and on that other site. I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's worth the trouble to part them out, or cut the price further or just let them rot away.

So, what do y'all think a '73 2.0 liter long block worth that used to run good but has been sitting for 10 years? And for that matter, what's the best way to ship an engine, on a palette?

What about a set of 15x7" 8-spoke Panasport wheels?

And a complete interior in black vinyl (nauga) gray velour inserts?

And a set of dual Weber 40IDFs?

Again, I haven't decided whether or not I'm parting them out, I'm just trying to get a feel for some values.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
SLITS
post Jun 18 2008, 06:57 PM
Post #2


"This Utah shit is HARSH!"
**********

Group: Benefactors
Posts: 13,602
Joined: 22-February 04
From: SoCal Mountains ...
Member No.: 1,696
Region Association: None



QUOTE(FriarJohn @ Jun 18 2008, 05:31 PM) *

I've been trying to sell my 914s for years with barely a couple of tire-kickers to show for it. I recently posted them yet again in the classifieds here and on that other site. I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's worth the trouble to part them out, or cut the price further or just let them rot away.

So, what do y'all think a '73 2.0 liter long block worth that used to run good but has been sitting for 10 years? And for that matter, what's the best way to ship an engine, on a palette?If it turns 360 degrees .... $400. If it's frozen ... $250. Strap it to a pallet and shrink wrap it.

What about a set of 15x7" 8-spoke Panasport wheels?Real Panasports? ... don't really know ....

And a complete interior in black vinyl (nauga) gray velour inserts?$200 - $300 if no rips or wear ... seats and door panels sell first.

And a set of dual Weber 40IDFs?With linkage, manifolds .... $300

Again, I haven't decided whether or not I'm parting them out, I'm just trying to get a feel for some values.


Those are my opinions and I know that others have sold their stuff for more money, but you asked.

And to maximize exposure ... go the eBay route.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
FriarJohn
post Jun 19 2008, 11:24 AM
Post #3


Non-914-Owner
**

Group: Members
Posts: 134
Joined: 29-January 03
Member No.: 211
Region Association: None



Thanks. You mostly confirmed what I was thinking, although I was hoping for a little more on the engine. It should still turn over, but I'll have to get it out of the car to check. The Panasports are "real," but one piece, cast. I'm hoping for at least a few hundred out of those.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
914Sixer
post Jun 19 2008, 03:50 PM
Post #4


914 Guru
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 8,883
Joined: 17-January 05
From: San Angelo Texas
Member No.: 3,457
Region Association: Southwest Region



Tight money, makes for lower prices sometimes. Then there are those that will pay any price.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
McMark
post Jun 19 2008, 04:20 PM
Post #5


914 Freak!
***************

Group: Retired Admin
Posts: 20,179
Joined: 13-March 03
From: Grand Rapids, MI
Member No.: 419
Region Association: None



I mostly skip over ads that don't name a price. Just sharing an outside perspective.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
FriarJohn
post Jun 19 2008, 05:24 PM
Post #6


Non-914-Owner
**

Group: Members
Posts: 134
Joined: 29-January 03
Member No.: 211
Region Association: None



QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 19 2008, 04:20 PM) *

I mostly skip over ads that don't name a price. Just sharing an outside perspective.


I understand, but I used to name a price in ads that I thought was pretty low and got no interest at all, even when adding "or best offer."
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Krieger
post Jun 19 2008, 07:20 PM
Post #7


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,712
Joined: 24-May 04
From: Santa Rosa CA
Member No.: 2,104
Region Association: None



If your heads are in good shape they are worth more than $400. you may want to pull them off, then they are easier to ship and sell. Interior stuff seems to sell locally.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Todd Enlund
post Jun 19 2008, 08:44 PM
Post #8


Resident Photoshop Guru
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,251
Joined: 24-August 07
From: Laurelhurst (Portland), Oregon
Member No.: 8,032
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



Personally, I think that the body mods on the '73 severely limit your market. The fact that you are in Montana limits your market. I hate to see good cars parted out, but...
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
E-Man
post Jun 20 2008, 08:07 AM
Post #9


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 158
Joined: 4-March 03
From: S. Windsor, CT
Member No.: 390



Can you send a photo (or photos) of the Panasports? I'm interested. -Mike
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
boxstr
post Jun 20 2008, 09:07 AM
Post #10


MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 7,522
Joined: 25-December 02
From: OREGON
Member No.: 12
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



Maybe now is the time to post this in the classifieds again. Seems that some interest has been raised.
ANd pics and prices will always help sell, that is what you are doing, so give a potential buyer everything they need to make a decision.
CCLINGYM
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
nsr-jamie
post Jun 20 2008, 09:19 AM
Post #11


914 guy in Japan
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,182
Joined: 7-November 07
From: Nagoya, Japan
Member No.: 8,305
Region Association: None



put it on the bay
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
ericread
post Jun 20 2008, 09:23 AM
Post #12


The Viper Blue 914
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,177
Joined: 7-December 07
From: Irvine, CA (The OC)
Member No.: 8,432
Region Association: Southern California



I agree that you should consider listing these on eBay with a minimum. It doesn't cost that much and you will get a much wider audience.

Eric Read
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
dbgriffith75
post Jun 20 2008, 10:34 AM
Post #13


TheGrif
***

Group: Members
Posts: 509
Joined: 25-July 07
From: Iowa, USA
Member No.: 7,945
Region Association: Upper MidWest



I think you should do whatever you feel like doing. If you'd rather sell it as a whole, do it; if you're feeling ambitious enough to part it out, go for that.

If you do sell the engine seperate, you're going to have to truck ship it. Even if you could package it well enough to survive UPS or Fed Ex, it's way heavier than their weight limits allow for ground ship. I agree with Slits that you should band and shrink wrap it to a skid, but there's a certain way to do it so as to minimize the risk of damage in transit. I work for a trucking company, both as a driver and a dock worker, and I can't even begin to list the damages I've seen to freight because of inadequate packaging practices. Below you'll find a diagram of the proper way to band/strap the engine:

Attached Image

It's pretty self explanatory. From the top view, the banding should run under the pallet as close to the engine as possible. Not all the way underneath- feed it between the space of the pallet. Hence the side view to give you a better idea of what I mean. Running the banding all the way to the edge increases the chances that it will be broken in transit, because it doesn't matter how careful a forklift operator is, skids get damaged; and if you run the banding all the way to the edge then the end boards get busted and the banding becomes useless. The engine is then just loosely floating around on the skid, and it will likely fall off in transit. If you ship the engine w/ the sheet metal in tact, I advise placing some kind of spacer over the top of the engine (2x4's are common) so that the banding does not contact the sheet metal, but is still binding the engine to the skid.

One thing I've seen places that ship used engines do is to put an old tire on the skid, then place the engine on top of the tire. It's mostly on engines w/ oil pans to make up the difference of the curve in the oil pan, but it also acts as a shock absorber since trailers can do a lot of bouncing moving down the road. It's up to you whether you want to do this or not.

And then: SHRINK WRAP! SHRINK WRAP! SHRINK WRAP!

I cannot stress this enough. This is one of the most underestimated packaging practices I've seen. Inadequate shrink wrap is one of the primary reasons why freight gets damaged- because customers think that one or two thin layers of shrink wrap is sufficient enough to hold a 7' high, 2000 pound skid together for the rigors of transport. Obviously the motor won't be that big, but you get my point.

And then, take pictures of it packaged before you ship it. Print copies to send to the buyer w/ the freight, and keep copies for yourself. Make sure to place them somewhere ON THE ENGINE, not on the shrink wrap, so that if for some reason the shrink wrap is removed during transit the buyer still has them. This way if the engine is damaged in transit, the buyer knows what it looked like when it was picked up, and can file a claim w/ the carrier instead of coming back on you for reimbursement.

That's all the advice I can give you right now. And for you and anybody else that has items they need to truck ship, don't be afraid to ask me how to properly package it if you're not sure. I personally hate trying to deliver freight that's damaged to a customer because it sends the message "We don't care about your freight." and that's just bad for business.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do w/ your car(s).
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
FriarJohn
post Jun 21 2008, 10:26 AM
Post #14


Non-914-Owner
**

Group: Members
Posts: 134
Joined: 29-January 03
Member No.: 211
Region Association: None



QUOTE(E-Man @ Jun 20 2008, 08:07 AM) *

Can you send a photo (or photos) of the Panasports? I'm interested. -Mike

I'll let you know if I part them out. Pictures here.

QUOTE(boxstr @ Jun 20 2008, 09:07 AM) *

Maybe now is the time to post this in the classifieds again. Seems that some interest has been raised.
ANd pics and prices will always help sell, that is what you are doing, so give a potential buyer everything they need to make a decision.
CCLINGYM

I did post it, right here. If I part them out I'll delete it and put it in the part classifieds, with prices.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
FriarJohn
post Jun 21 2008, 10:51 AM
Post #15


Non-914-Owner
**

Group: Members
Posts: 134
Joined: 29-January 03
Member No.: 211
Region Association: None



QUOTE(dbgriffith75 @ Jun 20 2008, 10:34 AM) *

I think you should do whatever you feel like doing. If you'd rather sell it as a whole, do it; if you're feeling ambitious enough to part it out, go for that.

If you do sell the engine seperate, you're going to have to truck ship it...


Thanks! That's a loot of good info.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
RJMII
post Jun 21 2008, 12:19 PM
Post #16


Jim McIntosh
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,125
Joined: 11-September 07
From: Sandy, Utah
Member No.: 8,112
Region Association: None



QUOTE(dbgriffith75 @ Jun 20 2008, 10:34 AM) *

I think you should do whatever you feel like doing. If you'd rather sell it as a whole, do it; if you're feeling ambitious enough to part it out, go for that.

If you do sell the engine seperate, you're going to have to truck ship it. Even if you could package it well enough to survive UPS or Fed Ex, it's way heavier than their weight limits allow for ground ship. I agree with Slits that you should band and shrink wrap it to a skid, but there's a certain way to do it so as to minimize the risk of damage in transit. I work for a trucking company, both as a driver and a dock worker, and I can't even begin to list the damages I've seen to freight because of inadequate packaging practices. Below you'll find a diagram of the proper way to band/strap the engine:

Attached Image



Thanks for posting that! I just packaged up a bottem end of a 2.0 to ship and built a simliar setup inside the box to hold the engine block into place. then once inside the box, it was pretty much stable, I put 3 extra layers of cardboard inside, then extra foam, then another super thick layer of cardboard up top and taped it shut. The box is SOLID, and going fed ex ground for less than $100.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
dbgriffith75
post Jun 22 2008, 12:43 PM
Post #17


TheGrif
***

Group: Members
Posts: 509
Joined: 25-July 07
From: Iowa, USA
Member No.: 7,945
Region Association: Upper MidWest



I'm glad my advice helped you guys out. Sounds like you went the extra mile on packaging yours RJMII, which is a good thing.

Like I say, sometimes it doesn't matter how careful a forklift operator is- damages happen. But by doing what you can to help protect the shipment is one more step to prevent damage.

And once again, if anybody isn't sure how to package something for truck ship, don't be afraid to ask. I'm more than happy to tell you what I know.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 19th May 2024 - 06:23 AM