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> 914 Condition Assessment Form?, Do we need this?
JeffBowlsby
post Jun 25 2008, 07:23 PM
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Would this be a useful tool for us? It would be a form sorta like the rental car agencies use to show existing damage only more detailed and specific to the 914. The form would benefit all parties to a transaction to more fully document the condition of a 914 to avoid misunderstandings and worse. I wish I had something like this on previous buys.

I envision a multipage form that is filled out by an owner, buyer or PPI inspector to document the condition of a given 914. Use it as a disclosure statement to a buyer, and a basis for negotiating a fair price. 914s are special interest cars now, with buyers finding cars far away where they cannot be personally inspected.

The form would have simple line diagrams including all 4 sides of the car, a plan view looking down from the top, a plan of the bottom and interior views – all to be drawn upon and conditions noted. A buyer could insist that the seller fill it out (for full disclosure) or better, pay a PPI inspector to complete. A proactive seller would furnish it without asking as a sign of good faith. The form could be a free benefit (downloadable .pdf) of belonging to this fine forum. The form could be used as evidence to document a car before it is shipped in the event of shipper-caused damage.

In addition to the diagrams a checklist of items to verify and room for comment would be included, covering everything from what is included in the sale (a list of extra parts and paperwork), the oil change/valve-adjustment history, to anything else the owners wishes to list ‘the top leaks and squeeks’, the registration expires in October’, ‘COA included’, etc.

Specific condition items could easily be documented with this form that often get overlooked, with as much care as the inspector can supply, that often affects a 914s value.

A basic level of inspection/documentation would be visual only and only cover things that can be observed without tools, lifts or removing any parts:
-Curb rash on wheels
-Non-op lighting/electrical mechanical system flaws
-Body/trim/glass/weatherstripping/lenses – every chip/ding/scrape/flaw/rust bubble
-Upholstery tears, carpet wear
-Remaining tire tread
-Shock absorber function
-Driving test impressions
-Non-stock or upgraded equipment
-Missing/worn parts and funky repairs
-Overall impression of cleanliness and maintenance
-General classification of car as ‘show-driver-race-repairable-parts car’

A more thorough inspection/documentation would require additional time, tools and access which would most likely be done in a shop:

-Underbody cleanliness or damage if a lift is available
-Oil/brake fluid leaks
-Brake rotor/pad thicknesses
-Compression/leakdown tests
-Exhaust system rust
-Suspension/steering bushing wear
-Rocker panel/Hellhole condition

With the most complete reports, detailed photos of critical areas can be included with the report.


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Jeff Bowlsby   914 Condition Assessment Form?   Jun 25 2008, 07:23 PM
championgt1   That is actually a real cool idea. Especially for ...   Jun 25 2008, 07:31 PM
markb   :agree: Maybe something like they use for insura...   Jun 25 2008, 07:39 PM
BMartin914   That is one of the best ideas I have heard in a lo...   Jun 25 2008, 08:48 PM
ericread   Geez Jeff. Just when I think you're gotten ol...   Jun 25 2008, 09:01 PM
watsonrx13   Absolutely.... great idea..... :trophy: -- Rob   Jun 26 2008, 06:38 AM
Rusty   Fantastic idea! Could we add views inside the...   Jun 26 2008, 07:31 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Fantastic idea! Could we add views inside th...   Jun 26 2008, 08:59 AM
SGB   Perhaps the form could point the reviewer toward s...   Jun 26 2008, 07:55 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Perhaps the form could point the reviewer toward ...   Jun 26 2008, 09:00 AM
r_towle   This is what a PPI is all about. No form should be...   Jun 26 2008, 08:29 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   This is what a PPI is all about. No form should b...   Jun 26 2008, 09:23 AM
Rusty   Personal opinion follows: Ed Mayo, Mark DeBernard...   Jun 26 2008, 09:28 AM
Pat Garvey   Personal opinion follows: Ed Mayo, Mark DeBernar...   Jun 26 2008, 07:07 PM
r_towle   Cost is what it is. The business providing the PPI...   Jun 26 2008, 09:36 AM
ericread   Cost is what it is. The business providing the PP...   Jun 26 2008, 10:47 AM
Racer Chris   You want the PPI service provider totally liable ...   Jun 26 2008, 06:33 PM
Rusty   I disagree. A list of potential PPI providers d...   Jun 26 2008, 09:43 AM
r_towle   It would end up being easier to find the names in ...   Jun 26 2008, 10:29 AM
ericread   One other note. IMHO, the checklist should be pub...   Jun 26 2008, 10:57 AM
SirAndy   simple, start a thread where people can post quali...   Jun 26 2008, 01:15 PM
davep   Good idea.   Jun 26 2008, 04:27 PM
Eric_Shea   :agree:   Jun 26 2008, 04:51 PM
George H.   what they said   Jun 26 2008, 05:13 PM
Dr Evil   Another brilliant innovation :) Count me in if I c...   Jun 26 2008, 05:13 PM
A&PGirl   :agree: I think the form is a great idea. I...   Jun 26 2008, 05:30 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Here is a first conceptual 7 page DRAFT for init...   Jun 26 2008, 07:19 PM
Pat Garvey   Here is a first conceptual 7 page DRAFT for ini...   Jun 27 2008, 08:08 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   mo'   Jun 26 2008, 07:20 PM
orthobiz   Also, A list of standard pictures suitable for ev...   Jun 26 2008, 07:41 PM
ConeDodger   I would take a more open approach to the uses of s...   Jun 26 2008, 08:06 PM
rktmn247   Very nice. I think this could be very valuable. ...   Jun 26 2008, 08:50 PM
Rusty   Hi Jeff! I used your draft form this weekend ...   Jun 29 2008, 06:34 PM
SirAndy   I'd suggest some reorganization, based on a l...   Jun 30 2008, 01:35 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Thanks for the great feedback Rusty. Several of t...   Jun 30 2008, 03:06 PM
g911   Top notch work and great feedback on organization ...   Jun 30 2008, 07:16 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Here is the latest revision of the assessment form...   Jul 1 2008, 11:26 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Tres.   Jul 1 2008, 11:27 AM
TeenerTim   I was thinking that you could add a small scale to...   Jul 1 2008, 12:29 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   I was thinking that you could add a small scale t...   Jul 2 2008, 09:16 AM
dbgriffith75   I think it's an awesome idea. :headbanger:   Jul 1 2008, 11:37 AM
rick 918-S   :popcorn: Outstanding as usual Jeff. :headbanger:   Jul 1 2008, 11:42 AM
markb   Well done! :clap:   Jul 1 2008, 12:12 PM
ericread   Damn!!! :trophy: That looks really...   Jul 1 2008, 12:43 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Damn!!! :trophy: That looks reall...   Jul 2 2008, 09:23 AM
ericread   Damn!!! :trophy: That looks real...   Jul 2 2008, 10:12 AM
Dr. Roger   Where would you put a list of components if it was...   Jul 1 2008, 01:46 PM
TeenerTim   Add a column heading for shocks and tires labeled ...   Jul 1 2008, 01:56 PM
Dr. Roger   exactly, because I would think a prospective buyer...   Jul 1 2008, 03:06 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Add a column heading for shocks and tires labeled...   Jul 2 2008, 09:30 AM
Rusty   Interesting ideas... but if I can't verify it ...   Jul 1 2008, 05:00 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   So here is version 0.3 beta for comments...7 pages...   Jul 17 2008, 03:56 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   :D   Jul 17 2008, 03:57 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   I have posted my Condition Assessment Form v1.0 at...   Jul 30 2008, 01:25 PM
bondo   :trophy: and :worship: That's all I have t...   Jul 30 2008, 01:34 PM


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