914 Condition Assessment Form?, Do we need this? Options

[markb]

Well done! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

[TeenerTim]

I was thinking that you could add a small scale to the side or bottom of one page to use as a tread depth gauge. Stick that part of the paper into the tire tread and mark how high it is right on the sheet. You wouldn't need to get and carry a separate depth gauge.

[ericread]

Damn!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) That looks really, really good. I think I'm going to do a PPI on my car just to document where it is today. This might be a very good tool to use annually to ensure any insurance claim is represented correctly.

BTW: Any movement on the earlier idea to provide a list of preferred photos?

Eric Read

[Dr. Roger]

Where would you put a list of components if it was a track car? like thicker torsion bars, aftermarket sways, springs, perches, non stock brakes, non-stock transaxle and axles, clutch, cooling...?

Just throwing thoughts out there. =)

Great idea BTW.

[TeenerTim]

Add a column heading for shocks and tires labeled "Brand" next to the size and tread columns so you can list Koni shocks or BFG tires. Also add it to any other spot where it might be useful to know like wheels.

Edit: I went back and saw there is no section for wheels. We definitely need a size, brand, and number lugs for the wheels. Add caps to that too to indicate whether they are missing or damaged.

[Dr. Roger]

exactly, because I would think a prospective buyer would like to know that i've got 110mm CV's (the largest you can fit through a stock swing arm)

Another example. Sir Andy's 944/911/914 Frankenstein axles...

[Rusty]

Interesting ideas... but if I can't verify it with my own eyes (i.e. new heads, new 1st gear, bigger torsion bars, etc), I will put the entry into the Owner Interview.

[JeffBowlsby]

I was thinking that you could add a small scale to the side or bottom of one page to use as a tread depth gauge. Stick that part of the paper into the tire tread and mark how high it is right on the sheet. You wouldn't need to get and carry a separate depth gauge.

Thats an interesting idea, I just don't know how to implement it or how accurate it would be. The whole edge of a piece of paper? Those 6 in. stainless steel rules are easy to come by and the chance a printed scale on a piece of paper would be off during printing would be large.

[JeffBowlsby]

Damn!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) That looks really, really good. I think I'm going to do a PPI on my car just to document where it is today. This might be a very good tool to use annually to ensure any insurance claim is represented correctly.

BTW: Any movement on the earlier idea to provide a list of preferred photos?

Eric Read

I have been thinking about this Eric, I think its a great idea. I don't think it should be part of the CA form, the document would get too large. How about a page on this site (not a saved thread that can accept comments) dedicated to '914 condition assessment' that would have the form for downloading, then a series of photos of 'right' and 'wrong' ways photograph a 914? The photos would be taken from right and wrong angles to illustrate critical conditions, and also would include photos of each of the critical areas to assure a thorough assessment process. Maybe Rusty could assemble this page if there is buy-in?

[JeffBowlsby]

Add a column heading for shocks and tires labeled "Brand" next to the size and tread columns so you can list Koni shocks or BFG tires. Also add it to any other spot where it might be useful to know like wheels.

Edit: I went back and saw there is no section for wheels. We definitely need a size, brand, and number lugs for the wheels. Add caps to that too to indicate whether they are missing or damaged.

exactly, because I would think a prospective buyer would like to know that i've got 110mm CV's (the largest you can fit through a stock swing arm)

Another example. Sir Andy's 944/911/914 Frankenstein axles...

I thought about these too, but the form would get wonky on us real fast. If we include a check list of every available accessory and optional equipment on a 914 the list would never be completed and the form would be a book. I see the form as a blank piece of paper that an assessor can add as much detail to as possible. So in the case of wheels, sway bars, performance upgrades, those can all be noted on the diagrams easier than it woould be to have an exhaustive checklist. Same reason I only show an outline of the engine bay...notes about the installed engine, hellhole condition, induction type can all be noted there. Even V8s...8)

[ericread]

Damn!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) That looks really, really good. I think I'm going to do a PPI on my car just to document where it is today. This might be a very good tool to use annually to ensure any insurance claim is represented correctly.

BTW: Any movement on the earlier idea to provide a list of preferred photos?

Eric Read

I have been thinking about this Eric, I think its a great idea. I don't think it should be part of the CA form, the document would get too large. How about a page on this site (not a saved thread that can accept comments) dedicated to '914 condition assessment' that would have the form for downloading, then a series of photos of 'right' and 'wrong' ways photograph a 914? The photos would be taken from right and wrong angles to illustrate critical conditions, and also would include photos of each of the critical areas to assure a thorough assessment process. Maybe Rusty could assemble this page if there is buy-in?

Jeff; I was thinking about a list of the pictures that would be desireable, i.e.
1. Engine Shelf
2. Hell Hole
3. Under-Pan Front
4. Under-Engine
5. Left Side
6. Right Side
etc. Again, just a checklist so that I don't inadvertantly forget to get a pic. Maybe lists like these belong in an appendix rather than on the form itself?

Please don't misunderstand, I think your form is great!!! m- And really a benefit to the entire community.

Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

[JeffBowlsby]

So here is version 0.3 beta for comments...7 pages.

Content ok? The graphics need to be refined, but how are they otherwise?

[JeffBowlsby]

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[JeffBowlsby]

I have posted my Condition Assessment Form v1.0 at a link on my website at this link. Download, print, and use it, let me know what you think. Would be happy to provide a copy to load onto the 914world if I knew how to do it. Will update as needed.

http://members.rennlist.com/914_collectibles/

[bondo]

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That's all I have to say. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)