 Front Trunks... Revisited, Front support shelf? |
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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
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| Steve Snyder |
 Jul 4 2008, 11:20 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 10-June 08 From: Graham, NC Member No.: 9,158 Region Association: South East States  |
All,
In preparation for re-installing my front trunk lid release cable, I was checking out the parts cars on the lot (to make sure I ran the cable correctly), and I noticed an interesting thing. My car, a 1974 2.0L (non-LE) has a support shelf between the headlight buckets (pictured below) that was not present in any of the other cars I looked at ('70, '72 & '76). When I looked up the nailed "Front Trunks" thread on this forum, there are several cars pictured with the same support shelf, and they are all 1974 MY. Was this design confined to the 1974 cars? Was it in '73s? It seems like it would be desirable from a rigidity perspective. *NOTE: Ignore the battery/battery tray in the picture... this is a driver restoration. (IMG:http://p914.com/p914-resources/p914-images/914-74-FrontTrunk.jpg) |
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| AvalonFal |
Jul 4 2008, 03:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 483 Joined: 3-July 05 From: Southern New Jersey Coast Member No.: 4,367 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
It's a support brace. I have the same in my '74 2.0L. It was added in '73 on US models when the inner nose panel was modified for the new bumper guards. In '75, the brace was deleted and the nose panel revised to accept the new style bumpers.
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| Steve Snyder |
Jul 4 2008, 06:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 10-June 08 From: Graham, NC Member No.: 9,158 Region Association: South East States |
Paul,
That makes sense with the bumper guard addition in '73. I figured it was removed in '75 to accommodate the bumper shocks. Thanks for the info! |
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| Tom_T |
Apr 5 2009, 04:52 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California 
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QUOTE(Steve Snyder @ Jul 4 2008, 10:20 AM)  All, In preparation for re-installing my front trunk lid release cable, I was checking out the parts cars on the lot (to make sure I ran the cable correctly), and I noticed an interesting thing. My car, a 1974 2.0L (non-LE) has a support shelf between the headlight buckets (pictured below) that was not present in any of the other cars I looked at ('70, '72 & '76). When I looked up the nailed "Front Trunks" thread on this forum, there are several cars pictured with the same support shelf, and they are all 1974 MY. Was this design confined to the 1974 cars? Was it in '73s? It seems like it would be desirable from a rigidity perspective. *NOTE: Ignore the battery/battery tray in the picture... this is a driver restoration. (IMG:http://p914.com/p914-resources/p914-images/914-74-FrontTrunk.jpg) I have them in my 73 2L too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Apr 7 2009, 11:20 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,827 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
a neat thing to know is that the 70 71 body structures were identical, the 73 74 body structures were identical and the 75 76 body structures were identical. The only odd ball is the 72 and actually there were two different bodies for the 72 models! anyone know the difference in the 72 bodies?
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| Richard Casto |
Apr 7 2009, 12:29 PM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Apr 7 2009, 01:20 PM) a neat thing to know is that the 70 71 body structures were identical, the 73 74 body structures were identical and the 75 76 body structures were identical. The only odd ball is the 72 and actually there were two different bodies for the 72 models! anyone know the difference in the 72 bodies? I will take a wild guess.... 70 71, no front trunk crash reinforcement, no adjustable passenger seat, tail shift linkage mounts on the firewall 72, add adjustable passenger seat 73 74 front trunk crash reinforcement, change to side shift linkage mounts on firewall. 75 76 delete front trunk crash reinforcement and other changes for new bumpers In short the 72 was the only year to have tail shift firewall + mounts for adjustable passenger seat? This is just a guess as I have no clue how the fixed position passenger seat attaches to the body. For all I know it was the same for all years. |
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| 6freak |
Apr 7 2009, 12:36 PM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Interesting battery location ..seems to work good ! can still carry spare! i like it
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Apr 7 2009, 02:19 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,827 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
So far so good...and the two differences in the 72 model early and late bodies??
QUOTE(Richard Casto @ Apr 7 2009, 11:29 AM) QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Apr 7 2009, 01:20 PM) a neat thing to know is that the 70 71 body structures were identical, the 73 74 body structures were identical and the 75 76 body structures were identical. The only odd ball is the 72 and actually there were two different bodies for the 72 models! anyone know the difference in the 72 bodies? I will take a wild guess.... 70 71, no front trunk crash reinforcement, no adjustable passenger seat, tail shift linkage mounts on the firewall 72, add adjustable passenger seat 73 74 front trunk crash reinforcement, change to side shift linkage mounts on firewall. 75 76 delete front trunk crash reinforcement and other changes for new bumpers In short the 72 was the only year to have tail shift firewall + mounts for adjustable passenger seat? This is just a guess as I have no clue how the fixed position passenger seat attaches to the body. For all I know it was the same for all years. |
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| Richard Casto |
Apr 7 2009, 03:02 PM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
No clue. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I have a 72, but I can't seem to remember what the early/late changes were.
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| Pat Garvey |
Apr 7 2009, 06:33 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(Richard Casto @ Apr 7 2009, 12:29 PM) QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Apr 7 2009, 01:20 PM) a neat thing to know is that the 70 71 body structures were identical, the 73 74 body structures were identical and the 75 76 body structures were identical. The only odd ball is the 72 and actually there were two different bodies for the 72 models! anyone know the difference in the 72 bodies? I will take a wild guess.... 70 71, no front trunk crash reinforcement, no adjustable passenger seat, tail shift linkage mounts on the firewall 72, add adjustable passenger seat 73 74 front trunk crash reinforcement, change to side shift linkage mounts on firewall. 75 76 delete front trunk crash reinforcement and other changes for new bumpers In short the 72 was the only year to have tail shift firewall + mounts for adjustable passenger seat? This is just a guess as I have no clue how the fixed position passenger seat attaches to the body. For all I know it was the same for all years. The 72 started life as a 71, in that the passenger seat was fixed and the seatbelts non-retractable. Not sure at what point in 72 that things changed, but by June the moveable passenger seat & retracto belts were in place. Like earlier years, the 72 model has it's production quirks, though not as many as the earlier years. Pat |
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| Pat Garvey |
 Apr 7 2009, 06:45 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Apr 7 2009, 11:20 AM) a neat thing to know is that the 70 71 body structures were identical, the 73 74 body structures were identical and the 75 76 body structures were identical. The only odd ball is the 72 and actually there were two different bodies for the 72 models! anyone know the difference in the 72 bodies? George, I have to admit that you have me intrigued. Two different bodies for 72? Assuming that you are talking about fours, and are taliking about body structure only, and not interior differences, you have me whipped! What are the diff's? Pat |
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| underthetire |
Apr 7 2009, 07:35 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
The rubber end piece on the side window squegee is different mid way through 72.
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| 914werke |
Apr 15 2009, 10:20 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,030 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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The R. Deck lid torsion bars passed thru a "loop" central mounted on the inside top of the eng compartment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| Richard Casto |
Apr 16 2009, 06:57 AM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
If we are still guessing on what the last difference is in the 72 body, I think I know what it is. Mid year they moved the storage location for the jack in the trunk. So I would assume that the bracket is in a different location for early/late 72 cars.
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| Slider |
Apr 29 2009, 02:48 PM
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Problems are like cockroaches you find 1 and theres a 100 more Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Fort Collins Colorado Member No.: 7,591 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
the lower dash panel was changed in mid 72 if i recall they added the outer air vents to the dash.
thats my guess.. besides the Passenger Seat', retractable seat belts and Jack location thats all i can think of.. |
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| mskala |
Apr 29 2009, 07:50 PM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Apr 7 2009, 01:20 PM) a neat thing to know is that the 70 71 body structures were identical, the 73 74 body structures were identical and the 75 76 body structures were identical. The only odd ball is the 72 and actually there were two different bodies for the 72 models! anyone know the difference in the 72 bodies? What do you mean by identical? In '70, the rear fender lip return is flat across the bottom, then in '71 they are 'rolled'. |
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| Porsche Rescue |
Apr 30 2009, 09:34 AM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
The two differences in late '72 body from earlier body:
Indents in rear interior panel for belt retractors and change to accomodate movable passenger seat. (I think!) |
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| Pat Garvey |
May 6 2009, 07:10 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(underthetire @ Apr 7 2009, 07:35 PM) The rubber end piece on the side window squegee is different mid way through 72. Have a pic? Pat |
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| jk76.914 |
May 7 2009, 12:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 3,925 Region Association: North East States |
When did the doors get the crash bars and the changed window mechanism? Was that a mid-year or model year change?
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| Cairo94507 |
May 8 2009, 08:16 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,722 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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I believe that was MY 1973 for the door change.
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