Okay, help with my motor, was: "carb dial in help? (webber IDF 44)" |
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Okay, help with my motor, was: "carb dial in help? (webber IDF 44)" |
VaccaRabite |
Jul 5 2008, 12:31 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,444 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
*edit* Note, cylinder bank 3/4 is not firing. Plugs are oil fouled. All four cylinders have decent compression, considering that the rings probably are not set yet. Carbs are fresh rebuilt, I have yet to check spark.*/edit*
I have set my idle at 1K rpm. Idle adjustment screws for the 3/4 bank is almost all the way out. Idle adjustment screw for 1/2 bank several turns in. Both carbs are idling at 5 kg/h according to my flow meter. Mix screws for all 4 carbs are 2.5 turns open. When I open the throttle to ~3K rpm, the 3/4 bank only sucks slightly more air. The 1/2 bank jumps up to about 15 kg/h. So, where am I off. I have my weber tech manual too, but thought I would ask here to see if I got a faster "ah-ha" type answer (like usual). |
iamchappy |
Jul 6 2008, 08:16 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Over the years i found that for some reason i found the best tune i could get out of a carb set up was by ear.
With the unisyn even when i had them all matched, the engine didn't run as well as when i used a length of rubber hose and matched the hiss of each carb intake to all sound the same. If you can tune a guitar you can do this. |
Joe Bob |
Jul 6 2008, 08:17 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
No but I CAN Tuna Fish....
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Jake Raby |
Jul 6 2008, 08:25 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Al, go ahead and bolt on the Chinese carbs and that problem will go away :-)
Damn thats a hard thing to say! |
VaccaRabite |
Jul 6 2008, 08:51 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,444 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Okay, so I got a break in the weather and ran out to do some tuning.
I took some pictures for Jake. His guess is that my vents are 34mm. (IMG:http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2642903679_3dfcbc4d84.jpg) I took the carb off the manifold and inspected the venturi closely, but could find no marking, so it must be engraved on the under side (which at the moment I can not get to). I put everything back together and started really examining the linkage. I noticed that the geometry from the pushrod that worked the throttle was steeper on the 1/2 bank then the 3/4 bank - seemingly by design. I am guessing this is why the 1/2 bank is doing most of the work. So, I mounted the 3/4 pushrod farther back on the linkage arm. I also turned the turn buckle to lengthen the arm a little. Then I powered up the system, and let the fuel pump run for a few moment to refill the float bowl on the carb that I had pulled off. Suddenly I smelled gas. I must have bent the float arm a little, as the 1/2 carb was overflowing with fuel. *DAMMIT* I sopped up as much as I could, and took the carb apart. Reset the float to 10mm to closed. Not knowing what to do about the gas sitting in the intake manifold, and not having a baster to suck it out, I ran the starter without fuel or spark and pumped it out. I suppose I need to remove my exhaust and drain that fuel out before I blow mu muffler off. I'll have to do that tomorrow. I'll test to make sure that my carb float shuts off as it is supposed to first though. I do not think that these carbs have choke circuits, but thats something that I will look for tomorrow. Zach |
craig downs |
Jul 7 2008, 01:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 25-November 05 From: mira loma ca. Member No.: 5,189 Region Association: Southern California |
Your carbs have the choke circuit as I can see the jet and the brass valve for it at the top of your pic. Just remove the cover that has a lever on it or some have a block off plate thats in the middle of the carb facing the engine. Look inside and you can see the 2 brass valves and make sure they are all the way down and seated and that they can move freely in the bores.
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ArtechnikA |
Jul 7 2008, 06:12 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
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