anybody ever use a cool collar?, found it on the pelican board Options

[buck toenges]

Anybody try this on a 6? any good?
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/c...cool_collar.htm

[smontanaro]

Seems interesting, but how much air flow is there over your oil filter?

edit: Also, it appears to be NLA.

Skip

[melnyk]

Seems interesting, but how much air flow is there over your oil filter?

Skip

eh it might be worth it on an aircooled every sqcm of cooling surface area counts the air around the filter is always going to be cooler than the oil. it may be a small improvement but for something so simple its probably worth it.

[Katmanken]

It seems like a good idea, but from a heat transfer standpoint, it probably won't do much, and may increase the heat of the filter.

There are 3 ways to transfer heat- the first is conduction. Heat from the oil is "conducted" out of the filter by contact of the hot oil with the "can" of the filter. The "can" hangs in air and can transfer heat directly to the air by convection (air moving across the can) or by radiation (-place hand near hot engine and it "feels hot"- it's not very effective compared to the other two). The crux is the contact of the inner surface of the alluminum cooling device with the outside of the can.

If they press against one another, heat transfer is by conduction and probably quite good. But, if there is an air gap between the two surfaces, you are down to radiation as a means of transferring heat. The air gap doesn't have to be much- a thousandth of an inch and all conduction heat transfer goes down the crapper. This is why power transistors and the heat sink on your microprocessor in your computer use "conductive grease" between the heat sink and the object to be cooled. Leave the grease out and you fry your microprocessor and transisitors.

That means if the "can" has a taper and the inner surface of the cool collar doesn't, you have an airgap over most of the can and it acts like a thermos jug. Likewise, if either the cool collar or the can isn't exactly round, you get an airgap and the unwanted thermos jug effect......

Adding a deformable conductive material to bridge the gap between the oil filter "can "and the cool collar is the only way to make it work as advertised. Conductive epoxy works too but it makes the cool collar a one time use device.

Ken

[melnyk]

It seems like a good idea, but from a heat transfer standpoint, it probably won't do much, and may increase the heat of the filter.

There are 3 ways to transfer heat- the first is conduction. Heat from the oil is "conducted" out of the filter by contact of the hot oil with the "can" of the filter. The "can" hangs in air and can transfer heat directly to the air by convection (air moving across the can) or by radiation (-place hand near hot engine and it "feels hot"- it's not very effective compared to the other two). The crux is the contact of the inner surface of the alluminum cooling device with the outside of the can.

If they press against one another, heat transfer is by conduction and probably quite good. But, if there is an air gap between the two surfaces, you are down to radiation as a means of transferring heat. The air gap doesn't have to be much- a thousandth of an inch and all conduction heat transfer goes down the crapper. This is why power transistors and the heat sink on your microprocessor in your computer use "conductive grease" between the heat sink and the object to be cooled. Leave the grease out and you fry your microprocessor and transisitors.

That means if the "can" has a taper and the inner surface of the cool collar doesn't, you have an airgap over most of the can and it acts like a thermos jug. Likewise, if either the cool collar or the can isn't exactly round, you get an airgap and the unwanted thermos jug effect......

Adding a deformable conductive material to bridge the gap between the oil filter "can "and the cool collar is the only way to make it work as advertised. Conductive epoxy works too but it makes the cool collar a one time use device.

Ken

ah good points! so lets make finned filter cans with replaceable elements that well sell and get richer than hell... oh shit maybe i should have kept this to myself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

[Elliot Cannon]

I've met the guy who invented this gadget. He lives locally here in Southern Callifornia. He has developed more than one gadget to help cool the oil. I think they all work to some degree. He also sells a "finned" oil line for the 911 and a scoop in front of the right front oil cooler in the 911. The collar for the oil filter is fairly inexpensive and I think anything you do to control oil temp is worthwhile. Every little bit helps.