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scotty b |
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None ![]() |
I'm looking for a early 70's 6.3 or 6.9 engine and trans for a hot rod project. The guy I used to work for has an early V8 he swapped out several years ago, he THINKS is a 450 SEL. How can I tell the difference between the high horse 6.3 & 6.9 and the lesser horse 4.5 ? I have always been confuzicated by M.B. badgiung because it never seems to have any bearing on engine displacement (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Yes I have one a Lensley 914 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,063 Joined: 10-September 03 From: Ruther Glen,VA (halfway between sticks and civilization) Member No.: 1,137 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
engine designation is M100 and was found in 70 450SEL featured a dry sump oil system as well
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None ![]() |
Additional question. Did all of the 6.3 6.9 engines use the " log " style intake runners? The engine he has has a low profiule manifold with the t.b. in the center and the whole intake setup sits barely above the cam covers.
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Cap'n Krusty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California ![]() |
6.9s were dry sump, or so I've found on Google. Pretty easy to i.d. THAT! CIS injection. The 6.3 had 2 long kinda tubular intake manifolds that come together at the throttle body in front of the right cam cover. Identified as the M100 engine, and there are numbers somewhere on the left side of the block, as I recall. Maybe at the flywheel end. The Cap'n
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scotty b |
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None ![]() |
Yup the rumnner are what I referred to as " log " style. I have a pic of one I know to be a 6.3. Problem I have is identifying the engine my friend has. His does not have that style intake but he says it is a 450 sel. I'm assumoing it may be a later style with a different intake ? I'll try to get a pic tomorrow if I have time to go that way. This IS a 1970 300 sel 6.3, and I beleive the 6.9 looks the same. I want this style not nly for the H.P. but the runners would be very easy to cap the ends off, reverse the stance and put an adapter plate for a carb...or 3....... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hot rod ya know, I can't run messy F.I. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None ![]() |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Intake option 1. pretty easy to make
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Well after a bit more research I found a pic of the intake on hois engine. The guy says it is off of a 4.5 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) FUCH. My friend also has a complete car we used to bomb around in, all I remember is it was FAST. I'm guessing it has the larger engine. I'm alsoi guessing it could be mine since he has a 911 he wants painted (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,201 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
The guy says it is off of a 4.5 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) FUCH. Geeze, you guys are spoiled ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Back in the early '90s, i had a 280 SE with a 2.8L /6 and i thought that car was fast ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy |
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None ![]() |
The guy says it is off of a 4.5 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) FUCH. Geeze, you guys are spoiled ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Back in the early '90s, i had a 280 SE with a 2.8L /6 and i thought that car was fast ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy How's that 1.7 running ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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Cap'n Krusty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California ![]() |
Here's a low quality photo of a 6.9. The intake you have is a 4.5 style with EFI.
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The guy says it is off of a 4.5 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) FUCH. Geeze, you guys are spoiled ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Back in the early '90s, i had a 280 SE with a 2.8L /6 and i thought that car was fast ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy I had a 71 300sel with the 3.5L/8 and i thought that was fast. It had the same type manifold with the downdraft throttle body as that one pictured as it was EFI. |
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,301 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
Pops had a 6.9. That car was fast. Faster than my SHO and that was fast.
Put that cross-ram on it! (ooooooooops sorry, wrong post) |
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None ![]() |
Pops had a 6.9. That car was fast. Faster than my SHO and that was fast. Put that cross-ram on it! (ooooooooops sorry, wrong post) I'm gonna find a cross ram ...turn it sideways and shove it sqwah up yer arse !! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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Don't embarrass me Filmore! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,681 Joined: 3-January 07 From: Tacoma, Washington Member No.: 7,420 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() |
The 300 SEL 6.3 and 6.9 were serious sleepers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,301 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
QUOTE I'm gonna find a cross ram ...turn it sideways and shove it sqwah up yer arse !! That does it Mister. From now on we require you use your real full name on this site! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.monicattichrysler.com/comersus/store/catalog/p5007534_hc-300.jpg) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None ![]() |
From now on we require you use your real full name on this site! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.monicattichrysler.com/comersus/store/catalog/p5007534_hc-300.jpg) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Big Dick McGee |
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