TO A/C or not to A/C air conditioing, Should I keep the a/c unit or not |
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TO A/C or not to A/C air conditioing, Should I keep the a/c unit or not |
jc914 |
Oct 24 2008, 08:21 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Miami, Florida Member No.: 9,548 Region Association: South East States |
I have a 1973 2.0 and it came from the dealership with the a/c unit. it currently does not work. I am planning on restoring the car early next year. My main questions is if i remove the A/C unit will that bring down the value of the car.... The only benefit i have from getting it fixed is that i live in Miami Fl. and i like how my car looks with the silver window tint. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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markb |
Oct 24 2008, 08:33 AM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California |
IMHO, a restoration means you're restoring it to what it came with from the factory. I'd leave it in. You probably will use it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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computers4kids |
Oct 24 2008, 08:41 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
IMHO, a restoration means you're restoring it to what it came with from the factory. I'd leave it in. You probably will use it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Ah yes, but if restoration means you're "restoring it to what it came with from the factory," then you would have to remove it, because 914s did not come from the factory with air...dealership add on. But Mark is right....you'll need it in Florida...leave it. |
dlee6204 |
Oct 24 2008, 08:43 AM
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Howdy Group: Members Posts: 2,162 Joined: 30-April 06 From: Burnsville, NC Member No.: 5,956 |
I agree... you should leave it in.
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heavydriver |
Oct 24 2008, 09:00 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 158 Joined: 7-August 04 From: Orlando, Fl. Member No.: 2,470 |
I bought mine from my brother when we lived in Homestead. By all means, keep the a/c. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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jc914 |
Oct 24 2008, 09:12 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Miami, Florida Member No.: 9,548 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks guys i am going to fix it it just to hot down here. Just got to save more money. May be christmas might be nice to me this year... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/santa_smiley.gif)
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VaccaRabite |
Oct 24 2008, 09:29 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,445 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I took mine out, welded all the holes closed, and replaced the A/C induced rusted front trunk with a good one.
I figure if it is that hot, I just won't drive the 914. But, hot in the MidA is not the same as Florida hot. Florida hot just gets silly. Zach |
Bruce Hinds |
Oct 24 2008, 11:47 AM
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V-8 madness Group: Members Posts: 733 Joined: 27-December 06 From: Port Orchard, WA Member No.: 7,391 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If you're gonna leave the A/C in which you'll really use, swap the piston style compressor out for a late model centrifugal model. They run so much smoother and may even take less power to run.
Bruce |
zambezi |
Oct 24 2008, 12:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 711 Joined: 14-April 08 From: Lafayette, LA Member No.: 8,920 Region Association: South East States |
Not only run the rotary style Sanden compressor, but also first and foremost change out the front condensor fan for a modern more eficient one. Take the front condesor box apart and see how small the fan and motor is. I just changed mine because I was shocked at the wopping 5" fan that was original. Now I have a full 13" Spal fan. I also moved the location of the compressor to on top of the motor for better ease of belt changes and recharging the system. I'll take some pics and post them if anyone is interested.
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jc914 |
Oct 24 2008, 12:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Miami, Florida Member No.: 9,548 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks Bruce Hinds for the informartion where can i buy and what centrifugal model do i need. I do like the idea of using less power to run. When it was working it would just suck power out and overtime work for the alternator
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southernmost914 |
Oct 24 2008, 12:56 PM
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KEY WEST/HAVANA Tunnel Authority Group: Members Posts: 338 Joined: 16-October 07 From: Key West/ St. Augie, Fl USA Member No.: 8,234 Region Association: South East States |
If you're gonna leave the A/C in which you'll really use, swap the piston style compressor out for a late model centrifugal model. They run so much smoother and may even take less power to run. Bruce (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Dude you live in South Florida, for comfort and resell value, keep your A/C. Yes it did not come from the factory with A/C, but it was delivered by the dealer that way and is a Porsche approved dealer add on. It will cost you to update. Barrier hoses, modern compressor, compressor mount, R134a conversion. Think about comfort and the comfort of your passenger. Steve Lobbiest for a cooler cockpit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
jc914 |
Oct 24 2008, 12:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Miami, Florida Member No.: 9,548 Region Association: South East States |
zambezi PLEASE PLEASE post some pics. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!
does anyone know about how much this would all cost. to update the a/c |
jc914 |
Oct 24 2008, 01:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Miami, Florida Member No.: 9,548 Region Association: South East States |
ok i found some post what compressor should i get the sander 508 or the sander 510. what the difference. thanks
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ClayPerrine |
Oct 24 2008, 01:35 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,474 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
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southernmost914 |
Oct 24 2008, 01:41 PM
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KEY WEST/HAVANA Tunnel Authority Group: Members Posts: 338 Joined: 16-October 07 From: Key West/ St. Augie, Fl USA Member No.: 8,234 Region Association: South East States |
ok i found some post what compressor should i get the sander 508 or the sander 510. what the difference. thanks 508 = 8 cubic inches of displacement per revolution 510= 10 cubic inches of displacement per revolution ( more of a load) I am running a 505 but I have a A/C background and have manipulated the system. Steve |
jc914 |
Oct 24 2008, 01:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Miami, Florida Member No.: 9,548 Region Association: South East States |
thanks ClayPerrine i am going to start pricing out what i need. for the compressor is it a V BELT OR 7 GROOVE SERPENTINE. i saw this on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sanden-508-...%3A1|240%3A1318 sorry for all the questions i am new to air conditioning now that i want to fix it thanks |
type47 |
Oct 24 2008, 01:56 PM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
i removed my a/c but since you're in FL, I'd leave it in and "neaten up" the install.
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jc914 |
Oct 24 2008, 04:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Miami, Florida Member No.: 9,548 Region Association: South East States |
I just want to be clear all i need to but to upgrade my ac unit to the new R134a. I saw on ebay they had two types of belts which one do i need
V BELT OR 7 GROOVE SERPENTINE items needed 1) sanden 508 Compressor 2) new bracket to attache the sanden 508 to the existing york bracket 3) barrier hoses |
southernmost914 |
Oct 24 2008, 04:44 PM
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KEY WEST/HAVANA Tunnel Authority Group: Members Posts: 338 Joined: 16-October 07 From: Key West/ St. Augie, Fl USA Member No.: 8,234 Region Association: South East States |
You must also replace the reciever/dryer and if you go with a Sanden 508 I would recomend a R134a TXV (metering device).
Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Edit:You have a grooved belt now. Might as well stick with the crank pulley you have now. |
jc914 |
Oct 24 2008, 04:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Miami, Florida Member No.: 9,548 Region Association: South East States |
thanks steve
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