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> Custom Exhaust, just want to see what people have done
turnaround89
post Nov 21 2008, 12:55 AM
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I am wondering if it would be possible to fab up my own exhaust system for my 1.8L engine. I figure i might be able to save some money this way, instead of buying a brand new one from AA or whomever and i'll learn how to make an exhaust as well. Just wanted to see what other people have done and how they went about it. Pictures would be great. I plan on getting rid of the heat exchangers if that helps out at all!

Thanks in advance everybody!!
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post Nov 22 2008, 03:53 PM
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Well, you need a header.

4-1 is easier to build and/or easier to find used, probably the cheapest bet.

For a 4-2-1 you need to call Chris Foley and step up to that system.

If you plan to fabricate the system yourself, you should probably do some general reading on how to build a header, what primaries are, how to measure these, routing etc.

This is information that people have obtained through trial and error in what is often called R&D and its not given away freely in any business manufacturing anything that they sell.

I always chuckle when people are mad that vendors or manufacturers wont share the information on how to make a product and the key decisions behind the design of a product...that information costs money.

I suspect that no one would ever flat out ask a manufacturer of microchips or software or rocket how they are built...basically you would never expect them to share that information.

Reverse engineering has its place and if you can get your hands on a header that someone loans to you, go for it, copy that persons work.
Its not ethical, its not always legal, but its done all the time. Big firms do it all the time but they BUY the product to test it and reverse engineer it.

The key things you need to read up on.
Volumetric efficiency
Tubing size and how it affects are speed and volume.
Thermo Dynamics and the behavior of exhaust gases
Scavenge based systems
Back pressure
Muffler design and baffling.

This information is the basics and no one will step up to teach you the basics, you need to learn this stuff first.

I suspect that once you are honing in on a specific design with specific questions, Jake, Chris, and others will respond.
They just dont have the time to teach the basics that they spent years to learn themselves...

Specific questions, specific ideas that may be a tweak on an exiting design will always spur healthy debate.

So, I advise you to re-state your question and educate yourself enough to pose some questions that may be answerable.

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turnaround89   Custom Exhaust   Nov 21 2008, 12:55 AM
jd74914   Well, first off you will need to make some flanges...   Nov 21 2008, 01:29 AM
Jake Raby   This is a huge challenge. The Type 4 engine is hea...   Nov 21 2008, 06:49 AM
spare time toys   Here are some down and dirty musts: -Primary l...   Nov 22 2008, 03:09 AM
CliffBraun   Here are some down and dirty musts: -Primary ...   Nov 22 2008, 11:40 AM
jd74914   Seconded, mine works fine. :D Fine is a relati...   Nov 22 2008, 12:24 PM
CliffBraun   Seconded, mine works fine. :D Fine is a relat...   Nov 22 2008, 12:54 PM
rick 918-S   As usual, Jake is the man. I've done some head...   Nov 21 2008, 09:18 AM
turnaround89   Ok, so what i have got so far it that all the cyli...   Nov 21 2008, 02:20 PM
A&PGirl   When my car was running it had a custom exhaust wh...   Nov 21 2008, 05:45 PM
Krieger914   Find yourself some used stainless heat exchangers ...   Nov 21 2008, 07:44 PM
jd74914   Find yourself some used stainless heat exchangers...   Nov 21 2008, 07:55 PM
worn   Find yourself some used stainless heat exchanger...   Oct 17 2018, 02:46 PM
mepstein   [quote name='jd74914' post='1104184' date='Nov 21...   Oct 18 2018, 06:11 AM
maf914   Thread is 10 years old. :lol: Yes it is! ...   Oct 18 2018, 07:50 AM
ChrisFoley   Thread is 10 years old. :lol: Yes it is! ...   Oct 18 2018, 08:48 AM
maf914   [quote name='maf914' post='2658426' date='Oct 18 ...   Oct 19 2018, 08:34 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Find yourself some used stainless heat exchangers...   Nov 21 2008, 08:00 PM
Hydra   What is dictated as the primary? apparently the...   Nov 22 2008, 02:42 AM
Krieger914   I love it ! You could polish the heck out of...   Nov 22 2008, 09:12 AM
Krieger914   I got a bursch at the time because it was a steal ...   Nov 22 2008, 09:26 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I got a bursch at the time because it was a steal...   Nov 22 2008, 01:16 PM
A&PGirl   Here are the pictures of my custom cherry bomb exh...   Nov 22 2008, 09:47 AM
jd74914   Its very possible I'm wrong and thinking about...   Nov 22 2008, 01:07 PM
ONTHEGRIND   We are working on a set of SS turbo manifolds a...   Nov 22 2008, 01:23 PM
r_towle   If you are planning on a custom exhaust system whi...   Nov 22 2008, 01:29 PM
Jake Raby   The Supertrapp has never impressed me. When they q...   Nov 22 2008, 01:29 PM
Chris Hamilton   The Supertrapp has never impressed me. When they ...   Nov 22 2008, 02:26 PM
KaptKaos   I just got a eurorace 4 into 1. What should I sti...   Nov 22 2008, 02:14 PM
Jake Raby   I will email the company I did the work for to see...   Nov 22 2008, 02:41 PM
Chris Hamilton   I will email the company I did the work for to se...   Nov 22 2008, 02:49 PM
Jake Raby   I will email the company I did the work for to s...   Nov 22 2008, 06:32 PM
CliffBraun   [quote name='Chris Hamilton' post='1104410' date=...   Nov 22 2008, 06:52 PM
turnaround89   I may not have posted this but i don't plan on...   Nov 22 2008, 03:40 PM
r_towle   Well, you need a header. 4-1 is easier to build a...   Nov 22 2008, 03:53 PM
turnaround89   I totally understand that a company won't rele...   Nov 22 2008, 05:51 PM
Jake Raby   That doesn't take much at all... BUT it actu...   Nov 22 2008, 07:48 PM
Chris Hamilton   That doesn't take much at all... BUT it act...   Nov 22 2008, 08:03 PM
turnaround89   Say i actually am able to make my own exhaust syst...   Nov 22 2008, 09:04 PM
CliffBraun   Say i actually am able to make my own exhaust sys...   Nov 22 2008, 09:10 PM
LarryR   Say i actually am able to make my own exhaust sys...   Nov 23 2008, 06:25 PM
turnaround89   Is a super trapp the same thing found on most tune...   Nov 22 2008, 09:53 PM
CliffBraun   Is a super trapp the same thing found on most tun...   Nov 22 2008, 09:59 PM
Chris Hamilton   Is a super trapp the same thing found on most tun...   Nov 22 2008, 10:40 PM
r_towle   I had a first generation Foley type header on a ra...   Nov 23 2008, 12:21 PM
turnaround89   I like the sound of the supertrapp, 1.) does the d...   Nov 23 2008, 12:44 PM
Chris Hamilton   I like the sound of the supertrapp, 1.) does the ...   Nov 23 2008, 01:27 PM
turnaround89   I been doing some reading about designing headers ...   Nov 23 2008, 05:17 PM
r_towle   Those are the 75/76 stub pipes that attach to the ...   Nov 23 2008, 06:12 PM
r_towle   Here is Paragon products complete system. This is ...   Nov 23 2008, 06:17 PM
LarryR   Here is Paragon products complete system. This is...   Nov 23 2008, 06:28 PM
r_towle   This is the Tangerine Racing (CFR) Chris Foley hea...   Nov 23 2008, 06:26 PM
r_towle   Now, The primaries are all bent all over the place...   Nov 23 2008, 06:30 PM
r_towle   Finally, here are the Tangerine racing (CFR) Chris...   Nov 23 2008, 06:36 PM
LarryR   That tangerine system is pretty sweet. However, ho...   Nov 23 2008, 06:46 PM
Joe Ricard   I bought my Tangerine back when I had a hopped up ...   Nov 23 2008, 07:11 PM
LarryR   I bought my Tangerine back when I had a hopped up...   Nov 23 2008, 07:30 PM
Joe Ricard   I bought my Tangerine back when I had a hopped u...   Nov 25 2008, 10:00 AM
LarryR   Had SSI and Bursch prior to Tangerine. oh heck y...   Nov 25 2008, 11:01 PM
turnaround89   Ok, now i got it, however i was also reading about...   Nov 23 2008, 10:40 PM
Racer Chris   Should i make my exhaust around the idea of makin...   Nov 24 2008, 02:57 PM
turnaround89   Alright, that makes sense. Where is the easiest p...   Nov 24 2008, 05:41 PM
biggy72   I like using spd exhaust. They are relatively inex...   Nov 24 2008, 11:35 PM
DTMLGND   Here is Paragon products complete system. This is...   Oct 17 2018, 02:01 PM
VaccaRabite   I have this on my new acquisition! :D I am ex...   Oct 17 2018, 06:22 PM
porschetub   Really if people look @ whats for sale they tend t...   Oct 18 2018, 12:10 AM
914GTSTI   If you can weld you can build a system. This is no...   Oct 18 2018, 09:13 PM
falcor75   I'm going to be trying to do my own system in ...   Oct 18 2018, 10:37 PM
914GTSTI   So get to work . Here is another system. http://...   Oct 18 2018, 11:02 PM


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