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> OT: Minature/Model AC? Is there such a thing?
SirAndy
post Nov 24 2008, 07:12 PM
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I'm looking for a small model Air Conditioning system.

Is there such a thing?
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post Nov 24 2008, 07:22 PM
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Functional, or just a static model?
For cars, houses, what?

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post Nov 24 2008, 07:23 PM
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Mini AC unit for a model car???
Probably need to make/modify that.

Mini AC unit like a house AC unit?
I would suspect yes its available at a decent architectural supply shop...

If none of the above work for you, try two part epoxy, the thick clay type epoxy.

My son does alot of custom modeling with small action figures (WarHammer)
he uses alot of the epoxy and a dremel.

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post Nov 24 2008, 07:49 PM
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Functional, small ...

I'm building a custom gaming PC and sucking warm air over hot components just doesn't cut it.

I've got a overclocked nVidia card (GeForce 8800 GTX) that you could cook eggs on as soon as you run any App that really pushes the GPU.
It comes with a huge fan build in, but even then, it'll just cook the board after 10 minutes or so.

And then there's the two 3GHz dual CPUs ...


I'm looking for some *real* cold air to feed to the monsters ...
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post Nov 24 2008, 07:55 PM
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Don't they make a liquid based cooling system for that?
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post Nov 24 2008, 07:56 PM
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Liquid cooling? Its proven tech, and simpler then a model A/C unit. If you use non-conductive liquid, spectacular failure won't even ruin your equipment.

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post Nov 24 2008, 08:02 PM
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You have several choices..

Live in Cinci and put the box outside in the 20 degree below normal air (darn global warming)

Water cooling (too bad for the fish in the tank)

A small windo AC unit with a cold air duct to the box.. (free room heat)

A squirrel cage fan from a HVAC unit (big airflow and quiet)

and Peltier effect local coolers for cpu's
Peltier effect coolers

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post Nov 24 2008, 08:03 PM
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Ok, anyone got any pointers?

I need something that is flexible enough to be installed in my own PC ...
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post Nov 24 2008, 09:02 PM
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Buy a used race drivers cool suit and wrap it around the PC. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 24 2008, 09:15 PM
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Here's a cooling site. http://www.frozencpu.com/
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post Nov 24 2008, 09:24 PM
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Ok, a few things ...

- All water cooled systems i found so far are for the main CPU only. That won't do me any good for the GPU ...

- A water cooled system will only be as good as your ambient air temperature.



So, a real mini AC system would seem like the better choice. I would get actual *cold* air i could direct to where i need it ...
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post Nov 24 2008, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 24 2008, 10:24 PM) *

Ok, a few things ...

- All water cooled systems i found so far are for the main CPU only. That won't do me any good for the GPU ...

- A water cooled system will only be as good as your ambient air temperature.



So, a real mini AC system would seem like the better choice. I would get actual *cold* air i could direct to where i need it ...
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You could run liquid cooling to anything you wanted. Just add the liquid ready heat sink and plumb in some plastic tube. Gamer nerds do it all the time.

If you want to get fancy, you can then run the coolant to a source of refridgeration.

I have never seen a small enough working AC unit for desktop computers, but I am sure that they have them, especially for enterprise level servers and such.

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post Nov 24 2008, 10:01 PM
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tony is coming down to your neck of the woods and that is his expertise. buy him dinner and drinks and he might have some thing for you.
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post Nov 24 2008, 10:08 PM
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look up "peltier devices"
http://www.peltier-info.com/

First decent AC unit for a submarine.
Used in IRaq for cooling CPU's and who humvee/truck full of computers.

There are many systems for this..

there are many companies the make cabinet AC systems for computer related cooling
http://www.americool.com/

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post Nov 25 2008, 06:09 AM
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Can you put it in the refrigerator? I thought of that looking at the americool site and seeing their 'enclosures.'

But don't mind me, there are lots of people who know more than me. I only vaguely understand what it is you need to cool. technological ignorance strikes again.
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post Nov 25 2008, 08:47 AM
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Cold enclosure
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post Nov 25 2008, 08:59 AM
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I'm the Technical Manager for Koolatron where we have been making Peltier cooled boxes since 1975. There are mini A/C units, but I'm not sure just how much cooling capacity you require. They consume a lot of power as well, so that may be a concern. A small compressor based system might be more suitable.
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post Nov 25 2008, 11:50 AM
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They've been putting AC units in CNC control cabinets for years now. If you have access to a machine shop that has CNC equipment, maybe you can find what system they have and go from there.
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post Nov 25 2008, 05:41 PM
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Andy not sure if a mini bar fidge has the capability of absorbing the heat of the unit you are trying to cool, but you could run a liquid into the fridge and back into your pc via small copper lines, or you could encase the unit you would like to cool and inside the enclosure run the cooling coil ...

a used fridge would cost peanuts,
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or just plumb your part inside of the fridge
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