Is there a later 914?, Later than Porsche claims Options

[davep]

Okay, so conventional wisdom says the last 914 made was 4762904075.
What do we make of this?

[SirAndy]

Why on that page is the engine serial numbers this?
GC 0002915-
GC 0006946
Which if I do the math is only GC 4031 engines. What did they do for the other cars if 4100 were built?
Is this German math?

"the book" says:

1976:
EC (1.8L L-Jet)
GC (2.0L D-Jet)

soooooo, they DID make 1.8L for 76 !!!!!
unfortunately, the book doesn't mention how many of each ...

Andy

[SirAndy]

What is the name of the book?

"Das grosse VW-Porsche Buch"

ISBN 3-89365-270-1

[echocanyons]

thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Bleyseng]

Let me guess how many EC 1.8L 76 cars were built....hmmm. I know 69!!!!!


Geoff

[davep]

I find it very hard to believe that there were only 2915 2.0L GC engine cars in 1975 model year.

So the SilberSeries was 1975 model year, not 1976 model year? And they were already running out of parts then?

DaveP

[Bleyseng]

What does the "Book" say when VW told Porsche they were pulling the plug on the 914 production line.
My friend says he was at that meeting in Germany when that happened but doesn't remember when it was. Lots of upset people at that meeting he said.

I find it hard to believe that they were running out of parts too.....Porsche had no plans to stop production until VW pulled the plug.

Geoff

[SirAndy]

So the SilberSeries was 1975 model year, not 1976 model year? And they were already running out of parts then?

all '76 cars were build in '75. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
the book says the "Silber Serie" was made in late '75,
taking porsche's mid-year model year switch, they could have been (technically) '76 cars.

anywho, what i'm trying to say here, just because all cars sold as '76 went to the US, that doesn't mean that the late '75 silver series wasn't build at the same time as those US '76 ....

the turnaround from building to selling obviously could have been much shorter for cars sold in germany. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

confused?
Andy

[SirAndy]

I find it hard to believe that they were running out of parts too.....Porsche had no plans to stop production until VW pulled the plug.

the book states a former employee:

"We used anything that we still had in stock"

[Bleyseng]

Be interesting to see what kind of VIN a SilverSeries had and if 100 were built they are pretty rare.

Geoff

[Bleyseng]

As I understood it, Porsche knew sometime in 75 the 914 was killed. I also have heard they ran out of body stampings not the rest of the car parts. Hmm, although that might explain the weird rear alignment shims I have. They are cut wedges not the usual shims. Other than that, my 76 looked like all other cars of that time, loaded with the options.

Geoff

[SirAndy]

What does the "Book" say when VW told Porsche they were  pulling the plug on the 914 production line.
My friend says he was at that meeting in Germany when that happened but doesn't remember when it was. Lots of upset people at that meeting he said.

they were already thinking about the 914 successor in 1972.

from the book:

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in 1972 the "VW-Porsche VG" started planning the 924, but instead of using as many VW parts as possible (like with the 914) this time the plan was to use as much Audi parts as possible.

the VW executives knew at the time that their contract with posche would most likely not be renewed (by the end of '75) but they still contracted porsche to design the 924.
the plan was to market the car as a "Audi Coupe" ...

then the leading force behid the 924, Mr. Leiding died in '74 and his successor did not approve of the Audi umbrella for the 924. the project was stopped.

after finally reaching a compromise in '75, the 924 was shown to the press in 1975 as the "Porsche 924" at a car-show in France.

the production of the 914 was stopped and the focus was shifted onto selling the 924 ...
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[Bleyseng]

There is way more to the 924 story.....I have read a account by that German 914 posted (cant remember his name but DD would). He told the story of the 924 on the Potomac Porsche club site. Basically, the Audi factory(was where the NSU's were built) had the car already to go for VW but then VW pulled out. The factory came to Porsche and (since Porsche had done most of the engineering) offered the car to them to sell under their name so the car could be built and the factory could keep on going.
By the way, my friend drove the first 924 around the US to all the Dealers to show it. It was a yellow car/black interior without ac, and he did this in the summer. He reported back to Porsche that they had to get AC in their cars or it would never sell! Too hot with that big back window! I have seen the pics he has of it and him.

Geoff

[davep]

To me, the 912E was the follow-on car to the 914. It seemed to be a half-hearted measure because it was only for the NA market for one year, and they did put considerable effort into the unique parts to make the car happen. Sure it was a type 4 2.0L, but it had unique fuel injection, exhaust, and sheet metal. The transmission was also unique. I don't know how they justified the cost of development over such a short production run. It seems to be a stop-gap measure to bridge the 914 and the 924 using available parts. Certainly the 924 was a major shift in design: front engine and water cooled. Porsche was probably reluctant to bet the business on the 924 considering the conservatism of the Porsche owners. ( they didn't make a REAL Porsche after the 356). Yeah, right.

DaveP

[Bleyseng]

Here DaveP is my vin tag

[Bleyseng]

vin

[Andyrew]

Ya, ya, old topic..

But here's one on ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...1&category=6430

Vin#4762904070

Super high priced..

Andrew

[Bleyseng]

Hey Andyrew, Good find!
Looks like it didn't come with Fuchs, fogs,and center console. Thats a rust bucket for sure with rusted pans and rockers.

Geoff

[davep]

I just asked him for some more information. Yeah, not loaded, unusual. I wonder what the reserve is?

DaveP