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> Chassis stiffening in SM2, I don't possibly see how Engman kit or clam shells are legal
blabla914
post Dec 28 2008, 12:40 PM
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Just so you know, I'm not looking to build some killer SM2 914. I just like autocrossing my street car and the old club that was REAL loose with the rules lost their site a couple years ago. Now I'm looking at potentially running some SCCA events and since I used to work registration for a couple different local clubs I hate it when people have no idea what class their car can even run in much less how their mods fit in the different classes.

From the SCCA rule book chapter 16, Street Mod & SM2

16.1 G. Subframe connectors are allowed as per Street Prepared (15.2.E).
15.2 E subframe connectors
E. Longitudinal (fore-aft) subframe connectors (“SFCs”) are permitted with the following restrictions:
1. They must only connect previously unconnected boxed frame rails on unibody vehicles.
2. Each SFC must attach at no more than three points on the unibody (e.g. front, rear, and one point in between such as a seat mount brace or rocker box brace).
3. SFCs must be bolted or welded, but welding must be to the OE subframe stampings, not to the floor pan in between.
4. No cutting of OE subframes or floorpan stampings is permitted. Drilling is permitted for mounting bolts only.
5. No cross-car/lateral/triangulated connections directly between the driver’s side and passenger’s side SFCs are permitted. Connections to OE components such as tunnel braces or closure panels via bolts are allowed and count as the third point of attachment. No alteration to the OE components is permitted.
6. SFCs may not be used to attach other components (including but not limited to torque arm front mounts or driveshaft loops) and may serve no other purpose.

Seems to me the Brad Mayeur kit and clam shells violate items 1,2 &, 3 and the Engman kit since it goes across the fire wall and joins the two sides adds item 5 to the list of reasons it is not legal.

Let me know how you interpret these rules.

Kelly
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blabla914   Chassis stiffening in SM2   Dec 28 2008, 12:40 PM
Joe Ricard   That's a pretty fine line on the Engman firewa...   Dec 28 2008, 01:49 PM
blabla914   Here is a technicality that will send the protes...   Dec 28 2008, 03:54 PM
Richard Casto   At one point I considered trying to build my car t...   Dec 28 2008, 05:43 PM
Joe Ricard   Have any of you looked at a real SM2 car? OMG ...   Dec 29 2008, 07:35 AM
blabla914   Have any of you looked at a real SM2 car? OMG ...   Dec 29 2008, 08:05 AM
grantsfo   Have any of you looked at a real SM2 car? OMG ...   Jan 9 2009, 02:26 PM
Joe Ricard   No, I saying the cars that are doing well in SM2 ...   Dec 29 2008, 08:22 AM
blabla914   Again, I totally agree about SM2 rules. I've ...   Dec 29 2008, 08:59 AM
J P Stein   By "real" I think Joe means a car built ...   Dec 29 2008, 09:30 AM
blabla914   By "real" I think Joe means a car built...   Dec 29 2008, 09:50 AM
J P Stein   Heh......no fool here. I install the Carrera cover...   Dec 29 2008, 10:22 AM
blabla914   Heh......no fool here. I install the Carrera cove...   Dec 29 2008, 10:56 AM
J P Stein   I didn't shorten the shaft. I put them in some...   Dec 29 2008, 11:21 AM
blabla914   good to know. Thanks. Kelly   Dec 29 2008, 11:38 AM
jhadler   Unless you expect to be competing nationally, or r...   Dec 29 2008, 02:29 PM
blitZ   But for just having fun locally, I say run it in ...   Dec 30 2008, 08:36 AM
blabla914   Josh, Yeah I hear you. I'm probably over ana...   Dec 30 2008, 07:28 AM
J P Stein   My take on "stiffening kits". All they d...   Dec 30 2008, 08:20 AM
blabla914   My take on "stiffening kits". All they ...   Dec 31 2008, 07:22 PM
J P Stein   The 914's chassis was never intended to take t...   Dec 31 2008, 09:05 PM
grantsfo   The 914's chassis was never intended to take ...   Jan 8 2009, 10:33 PM
J P Stein   The 914's chassis was never intended to take...   Jan 9 2009, 09:51 AM
grantsfo   Reinforcements are generally overated for most cau...   Jan 9 2009, 02:10 PM
J P Stein   But JP we all know your the expert AX'r so ...   Jan 9 2009, 08:28 PM
SirAndy   you are neither. :woohoo:   Jan 10 2009, 12:15 AM
Travis Neff   <snicker!>   Jan 10 2009, 02:29 AM


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