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Rear OEM Springs?Anyone> Parade 2009.., Springs SOLVED/Keystone Colorado this year! |
914runnow |
Jan 19 2009, 06:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 19-April 04 From: Modesto California Member No.: 1,948 Region Association: None |
Hi all...When I was here, before my resto on my 75, I would see
a cry for help once in a while..... HELP!! #1-Anyone out there have a set of New or Lightly used Rear Shock Springs..1/2/3 Green Stripe..OR know of a pair somewhere?? I did place an ad WTB..But no bites..Need to be OEM..please.. #2-Does anyone here plan on coming to Colorado and entering their car (914) in the Porsche Parade 2009.. OR just coming in General...???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Thanx Rx |
Pat Garvey |
Jan 22 2009, 07:17 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Hi all...When I was here, before my resto on my 75, I would see a cry for help once in a while..... HELP!! #1-Anyone out there have a set of New or Lightly used Rear Shock Springs..1/2/3 Green Stripe..OR know of a pair somewhere?? I did place an ad WTB..But no bites..Need to be OEM..please.. #2-Does anyone here plan on coming to Colorado and entering their car (914) in the Porsche Parade 2009.. OR just coming in General...???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Thanx Rx It's still a remote posiibiility, but doubtful. The Aspen Parade in '78 was absolutely awesome. We were there, but in a 924. As an east coaster, I'll say that missing the Rockies in a Porsche would be terrible. Trying, trying, but not a lot of hope. Takes too many days off. Pat |
914runnow |
Jan 22 2009, 07:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 19-April 04 From: Modesto California Member No.: 1,948 Region Association: None |
Well trying to gettah a 'Guest' count for Teenerz planning to attend on this side of the forums so far...
OR if by Slim Chance a SOMEONE will enter their car!! |
914runnow |
Jan 28 2009, 09:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 19-April 04 From: Modesto California Member No.: 1,948 Region Association: None |
Hi all...When I was here, before my resto on my 75, I would see a cry for help once in a while..... HELP!! #1-Anyone out there have a set of New or Lightly used Rear Shock Springs..1/2/3 Green Stripe..OR know of a pair somewhere?? I did place an ad WTB..But no bites..Need to be OEM..please.. #2-Does anyone here plan on coming to Colorado and entering their car (914) in the Porsche Parade 2009.. OR just coming in General...???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Thanx Rx Okay it looks as if the Dr. At AA has had repros made ... I will try a pair as the Stock OEM are Mega NLA.... they are at 90lbs and are to be right and correct... So that solves the rear shock spring search..!! |
tod914 |
Jan 28 2009, 11:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Good to know there is a sub. I think the Weltmeisters are 100 lbs and shorter. Have you tried your local Porsche dealer out of curiosity?
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jonferns |
Jan 29 2009, 12:47 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 29-March 07 From: New Jersey Member No.: 7,631 Region Association: North East States |
How much for the repros from AA?
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ArtechnikA |
Jan 29 2009, 04:22 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
Hi all...When I was here, before my resto on my 75... Anyone out there have a set of New or Lightly used Rear Shock Springs..1/2/3 Green Stripe....Need to be OEM..please.. ... Okay it looks as if the Dr. At AA has had repros made ... I will try a pair as the Stock OEM are Mega NLA.... they are at 90lbs and are to be right and correct... /4 springs were never 90 lbs/in... Somewhere I have a table of rates, but IIRC /4 springs were all in the 60 lbs range. /6 springs were 90 lbs/in ... |
jonferns |
Jan 29 2009, 07:58 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 29-March 07 From: New Jersey Member No.: 7,631 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE /4 springs were never 90 lbs/in... Im pretty sure they were 90 lbs originally. |
ArtechnikA |
Jan 29 2009, 08:05 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE /4 springs were never 90 lbs/in... Im pretty sure they were 90 lbs originally. Actually even /6's were nominally 60 lbs/in 914.6GT's were nominally 90 /4's were in the 53 range. Here's My Data. Love to see your reference. |
914runnow |
Jan 30 2009, 11:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 19-April 04 From: Modesto California Member No.: 1,948 Region Association: None |
How much for the repros from AA? $99.00 for the pair... I am not toooooooo worried about the 90lbs as my only other choice was the Welt's at 100lbs 'Street'..and shorter springs......... With Boge OEM's should be just fine...BUT I will post my findings..Once installed..I do have a 75 which will be some weight offset to the 6..due to big bumps and crash guards in door panels etc...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) BUT I did tell George that I do not want a stiff ride.. Last thing would be to >>have to sand bag my rear trunk<<!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) |
914runnow |
Jan 31 2009, 12:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 19-April 04 From: Modesto California Member No.: 1,948 Region Association: None |
Good to know there is a sub. I think the Weltmeisters are 100 lbs and shorter. Have you tried your local Porsche dealer out of curiosity? Stoddards...None Germany.....USA or Canada..nor Dealer Network... Posted WTB on World Board..Nottah nibble..!!Pelican no go....Perf prods. no go.... Tweeks has been gone for a while...(they would have been the only Cat. place to possibly keep a pair in stock) ....My new pair of OEM's 203's in the box that I got from A and J years ago..(Promised to my nut n bolt resto 73 2.0)..Looked as if the box was from the early 80's.... BUT it still came thru their dealer via PCNA Reno warehouse at the time..Years ago I was set up with a dealer such as Perf. Prods is etc...But my dealer got canned by PCNA...and due to the fact that even then ..prices were on a week to week fluctuation..I decided my 10 to 20 % mark up was not worth the effort..This Was Before eBay dayz too!!! |
tod914 |
Feb 3 2009, 06:07 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Going to be redoing my shocks too. Think I will go with the new springs that George made.
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Mar 26 2009, 07:40 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,833 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
Knowing that the factory springs were long discontinued and unavailable and also that the original four springs were just too weak and sagged, we duplicated the six springs for a little more fortitude but still very very stock height. One of the leading spring manufacturers in the country made them for us and we are absolutely delighted with them. I HATED the after market springs as I could not achieve stock height without adjusting the spring plate on a bilstein and the ride suffered (in my old age!!)
The so called rating is different according to how measured and I do not know how this 90 100 120 140 165 and 180 stuff started, but here is how it is calculated: http://www.pontiacracing.net/js_coil_spring_rate.htm (for example). Anyway my black 58000 mile car was sagging but is now a perfect stock height, still with its original boge shocks, after installing these springs. |
jonferns |
Mar 26 2009, 01:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 29-March 07 From: New Jersey Member No.: 7,631 Region Association: North East States |
Just found a very nice set of original green stripe springs here on the classifieds (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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swm914 |
Mar 28 2009, 12:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Palmyra, PA Member No.: 7,484 Region Association: None |
I just removed a set of springs from my '74 with 54000 orig miles. They look like the ones on the pix above with the green markings. However, they had a paper part no. tag -see attachment (if I did it right!) , wrapped around the coil. I find it hard to think these paper tags were preserved since '74 unless they were preserved from the elements depending on their location under the car. Now, I am wondering if they were original or not. I sent a few PM's out to some experts but thought I'd also post here as an FYI to others and to ask for other opinions. So, original or not, and do they have any value?? Thanks Steve |
davep |
Mar 28 2009, 12:25 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,137 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
If that tag was on the spring, then it was a replacement part.
OEM springs sagged after a few years, so unless a set was NEVER used, it would be toast by now. |
bembry |
Mar 28 2009, 04:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 29-July 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Knowing that the factory springs were long discontinued and unavailable and also that the original four springs were just too weak and sagged, we duplicated the six springs for a little more fortitude but still very very stock height. One of the leading spring manufacturers in the country made them for us and we are absolutely delighted with them. I HATED the after market springs as I could not achieve stock height without adjusting the spring plate on a bilstein and the ride suffered (in my old age!!) The so called rating is different according to how measured and I do not know how this 90 100 120 140 165 and 180 stuff started, but here is how it is calculated: http://www.pontiacracing.net/js_coil_spring_rate.htm (for example). Anyway my black 58000 mile car was sagging but is now a perfect stock height, still with its original boge shocks, after installing these springs. My 73 is sagging pretty badly in the rear---I'll be getting a set of those! |
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