What's the best way to adhere your basket weave dash facing?, Just checking |
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What's the best way to adhere your basket weave dash facing?, Just checking |
PeeGreen 914 |
Jan 26 2009, 12:47 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Got a new roll of basket weave to cover the front of my dash and want to know what is the best product for this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Todd Enlund |
Jan 26 2009, 01:32 AM
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Resident Photoshop Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,251 Joined: 24-August 07 From: Laurelhurst (Portland), Oregon Member No.: 8,032 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Got a new roll of basket weave to cover the front of my dash and want to know what is the best product for this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) 3M 77 |
mojorisen914 |
Jan 26 2009, 02:42 AM
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Visit your local strip club Group: Members Posts: 695 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Denver Colorado Member No.: 6,403 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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IMO, 3M makes the best adhesive products. |
IronHillRestorations |
Jan 26 2009, 08:51 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,731 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
The most time consuming part of dash face replacement is cleaning off the old adhesive. Make sure you get off all the old adhesive. The best glue in the world won't hold to old gummy adhesive. BTDT, re-did it right.
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underthetire |
Jan 26 2009, 09:59 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
3M Super 90. Way stronger than the Super 77.
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r_towle |
Jan 26 2009, 10:07 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,591 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
The nice part is that the three pieces, the dash face, the radio cover, and the glove box cover all get removed for this process.
You need to remove all the switch bezels and heater stuff, but that is all that holds the metal pieces in place. Glove box is screwed in from the rear. You can then remove these pieces, remove the old vinyl and use a DA or random orbital sander to remove all the adhesive and old loose paint. Re-paint and glue up the new piece while on a bench...LOADS easier than doing it in the car... Clean both sides of the pieces because you will be slicing and bending over, then glueing the vinyl to the back also...so get it all clean and sanded before you start...on both sides. RIch |
PanelBilly |
Jan 26 2009, 11:27 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,817 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I use 77 and 90 for my business, but I think you should get a small can of plain old contact cement. It would be alot cheeper and if you do it right it sticks great. Brush a thin coat on BOTH surfaces and let it dry. In this weather give it 30-45 minutes. Line everything up, because when you put them togeather they are going to stick. There will be no sliding around. And don't get the water based contact cement. By the way, your going to need to let the car air out before you sit in it, don't let you kid sit in teh car for a day or so. Nasty fumes.
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PeeGreen 914 |
Jan 26 2009, 11:30 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The nice part is that the three pieces, the dash face, the radio cover, and the glove box cover all get removed for this process. You need to remove all the switch bezels and heater stuff, but that is all that holds the metal pieces in place. Glove box is screwed in from the rear. You can then remove these pieces, remove the old vinyl and use a DA or random orbital sander to remove all the adhesive and old loose paint. Re-paint and glue up the new piece while on a bench...LOADS easier than doing it in the car... Clean both sides of the pieces because you will be slicing and bending over, then glueing the vinyl to the back also...so get it all clean and sanded before you start...on both sides. RIch Well, the nice thing about this is my car doesn't have anything in the dash. |
r_towle |
Jan 26 2009, 01:00 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,591 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Its held on with double stick tape...get a putty knife behind it and peel it off..be gentle not to bend it.
The glove box it held on by the two screws that hold the handle on...take them off and you can peel off that piece also...it also uses doulbe sided tape... Its kinda a beotch to get it off around the steering column... If you need to leave that in place, bend the little piece on the dash face...it will be fine...bend it back later. You will need to use new tape...its 30 year old crap. RIch |
McMark |
Jan 26 2009, 01:45 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Metal plates are held to the dash frame with double stick foam tape (available at my local auto paint supply shop). Vinyl is best held to the metal plates by upholstery grade adhesive which is not available 'over the counter', at least in CA.
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tag |
Feb 7 2009, 05:39 AM
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ConeDodger |
Feb 7 2009, 10:11 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,614 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Jon,
Why do you need to replace it? Mine appeared to be pulling up at the radio face area. I bought the new material from Appearance and Performance and had it on my to-do list and when McMark and I put in the new stereo system the new radio had a bigger flange and it pulled the puffy end by the radio back to where it belongs. Fixed. By the way, anyone need dash face material? I think I paid $20 for it... |
PeeGreen 914 |
Feb 7 2009, 10:18 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I wouldn't say I need to cover it but my dash has nothing in there and I want to take and cover the entire panel so you don't see the holes.
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ConeDodger |
Feb 7 2009, 10:59 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,614 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I wouldn't say I need to cover it but my dash has nothing in there and I want to take and cover the entire panel so you don't see the holes. Oh hell... That's easy! Just look out the window and watch where you're going! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) |
PeeGreen 914 |
Feb 7 2009, 11:23 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Eric_Shea |
Feb 7 2009, 02:29 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
3M did not work for me. Fresh vinyl and fresh metal. Peeling. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Katmanken |
Feb 7 2009, 05:42 PM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
If you don't clean the crap out of the surfaces, your adhesives may never work for you.
Here we go again, when you glue something, you are gluing to whatever is under it. If you have a spotlessly clean layer of metal dash surface you glue to the metal dash surface. If there is a spotlessly clean layer of paint, you are gluing to the paint. If you have a 30 year old layer of oxidized glue on the dash, you are gluing to the oxidized glue. If you have a spotlessly clean painted dash and you smear your greasy fingers on the dash, you glue to the dash and the grease. Some joker sprays it with silicone adhesive, armor all, or fish oil impregnated rustoleum, you are in for fun. Clean the crap out of the dash using 409 cleaner (no residue), laquer thinner, and alcohol. Each one cleans different problems. If it has that brown coating from dried former glue, get out the sandpaper, the cleaners and the NON RUSTOLEUM touchup paint. Do the cleaning, and I guarantee it will stay. Oh yeah, new basketweave is essential. Kennydoingitonceandnotoverandoverandoverandoverandoverand... |
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