Amateur night - Cracked valve guide guide, oops |
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Amateur night - Cracked valve guide guide, oops |
fraggle00 |
Feb 22 2004, 03:11 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 27-September 03 From: Boise, ID Member No.: 1,202 |
OK, first lesson, if you get frustrated - STOP and get back to work later.
Now that I've learned that, what I can I do about this: I drilled my hole a little off-center for my intake valve guide removal ('75 2.0). Now I've got two problems 1) When I tapped the guide hole for my bolt, the threads bit into the sidewall of the head a little 2) Due to this, threads in the guide were weak and tore out 3) Got a little furstrated and tried an alternative method of banging out the guide (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) 4) Bad idea as it expanded a little and cracked the head down near the intake port. I quit right away at that point and found a better alternative method. I also scarred the valve guide hole a little. (IMG:http://home.mindspring.com/~frachel/headgoof-1.JPG) (IMG:http://home.mindspring.com/~frachel/headgoof-2.JPG) Question is: Is this repairable? I can't be the first one to have done something this dumb. Of course, the guide I knocked out went great, as well as the both exhaust guides. The '75 2.0 heads (for a very short time) used smaller diameter intake valve guides, so I probably could have it machined up to the next size, but I'm not sure what would happen down in the intake port. Experts??? What's the opinion out there? |
Dave_Darling |
Feb 22 2004, 03:17 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,983 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
I'd say weld it up and drill a new hole. Probably best to let a pro do it, though--welding aluminum and machining valve guide holes is not for the average DIY'er.
--DD |
Mark Henry |
Feb 22 2004, 03:30 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Weld then ream for a oversize guide.
You did not core the guides properly. I bet you will have to ream all the bores for oversize guides. If you drifted the guides out through the VC side you went the wrong way. If you did core, then tapped for a bolt, you defeated the purpose of coring. Coring is done to relieve the press fit of the guide for removal. |
fraggle00 |
Feb 22 2004, 04:13 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 27-September 03 From: Boise, ID Member No.: 1,202 |
I figure anything at this point it beyond me on this head. I haven't started on the second yet so I'm sure that will go better with all I learned with this one...
I drifted out the guides so they exited on the rocker arm side, I think the other bores (the ones I didn't bugger up) should be OK. I tapped them from the rocker side as well. Looks like I read too many different methods and got some of them a little mixed up. I'll have to chat with my local VW shop and find out where I can get this welded up and re-drilled. thanks for the fast advice. |
914zim |
Feb 23 2004, 12:14 PM
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Still pretty clueless... Group: Members Posts: 221 Joined: 29-July 03 From: New Berlin, WI Member No.: 962 |
Dude, that sucks!
Good luck!! Andy... (bought your muffler) |
Brett W |
Feb 23 2004, 10:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
you should have heated the head and bought the proper valve giude driver. You may be able to modify an air hammer to do the job better. AS fas as the cracks you can weld them it shouldn't hurt anything.
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fraggle00 |
Feb 23 2004, 10:14 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 27-September 03 From: Boise, ID Member No.: 1,202 |
Brought the head to my local VW shop and they weren't willing to recommend the weld work to anyone local (Boise, ID).
Anyone here up for it or have any suggestions? I of course will pay to have the work done, I'm not looking for handouts... |
Dave_Darling |
Feb 24 2004, 01:42 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,983 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
FAT Performance in Orange CA. Otto's in Venice. Headflow Masters in San Diego. They should all be able to cope with it. (I'm sure Steve from Otto's will chime in any minute now... <_< ) Don't know anyone in or near Boise.
Some of the OR/WA crowd may have suggestions that are closer. --DD |
fraggle00 |
Feb 24 2004, 10:21 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 27-September 03 From: Boise, ID Member No.: 1,202 |
I've heard a lot of good things about Otto's -
Steve? You out there? PM me or someone drop me a link. thanks |
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