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> Best satin black spray paint for rockers and valances?, Looking for long-term chip resistance...
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post Mar 11 2009, 04:30 PM
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Powdercoating is out because I am going with fiberglass for the front and rear pieces. Also like the future repair-ability of normal paint. That said, I'd like to figure out the best stuff to use, and am going for a smooth, satin-black finish.

What have others tried? What has worked well for you? Any prep hints past the usual would be welcomed, as well.

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post Mar 11 2009, 05:03 PM
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BBQ paint is usually pretty tough. That would be my first guess.
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post Mar 11 2009, 05:07 PM
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Wurth trim paint satin finish is the correct answer. I used Rustoleum satin black and it came out great and is pretty tough stuff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Mar 11 2009, 06:27 PM
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Pete, talk to your painter. You can shoot it a satin and have it clear coated with a chip resistant clear like they use on the front of the newer cars. It's an additive to make it less brittle. Don't know the name but I had that option when we sprayed mine.
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post Mar 11 2009, 06:45 PM
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Another option is spray some rocker gaurd on them then paint over that black. The rocker guard is made to be painted over. That WILL give it a light texture but it wouldn't look bad IMO. I put it on the bottom edges of Mikes bus.



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post Mar 11 2009, 06:59 PM
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Rustolium satin black.

Reapply as needed, but the stuff is pretty tough.


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post Mar 11 2009, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Mar 11 2009, 04:30 PM) *

Powdercoating is out because I am going with fiberglass for the front and rear pieces. Also like the future repair-ability of normal paint. That said, I'd like to figure out the best stuff to use, and am going for a smooth, satin-black finish.

What have others tried? What has worked well for you? Any prep hints past the usual would be welcomed, as well.

Thanks,

pete

Pete,

I would use the factory original finish, fibergalss or steel. - Body Shutz. It goes on with a low pressure gun (30-35 psi) and can be painted or left alone.

It's rubberized, so it takes hits & keeps on coming. Easy to remove if need be.

Don't get why anyone uses anything else.
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post Mar 11 2009, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Mar 11 2009, 08:04 PM) *


Don't get why anyone uses anything else.


Mostly 'cause we're jerks. :-)
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post Mar 11 2009, 07:20 PM
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or you could just reshoot it every couple of years
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post Mar 11 2009, 07:55 PM
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Krylon Satin Black or semi flat black depending on where you live. Comes in a can, holds up very well, inexpensive versus almost everything else and can be resprayed with ease if it starts to look at all bad.

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post Mar 12 2009, 07:31 AM
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I used Krylon Hi Heat on my Cobra's sidepipes, wetsanded with 1200 and buffed with polishing compound. It comes out looking like black chrome and lasts a season before needing a touchup. I tried using RustOLeum but it doesn't rub down to the same lustre, wants to stay flat.

It's what I plan on using on my rockers if I ever get that far.

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post Mar 12 2009, 08:24 AM
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'cause I dont drink anymore and Cheeze clogs me up...

I use some leftover GM black from my Grand Prix and flatten it with flattener... When thats gone, Rustoleum Satin looks nice, and its cheap.
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post Mar 12 2009, 08:25 AM
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I bought a can of Gravel Guard (I think it was called that) aerosol for my valences. It went on with a Schutz-like texture and matched very closely to the texture on the rocker panels. It didn't require a special applicator gun.
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QUOTE(scotty b @ Mar 11 2009, 04:45 PM) *

Another option is spray some rocker gaurd on them then paint over that black. The rocker guard is made to be painted over. That WILL give it a light texture but it wouldn't look bad IMO. I put it on the bottom edges of Mikes bus.



QUOTE(zonedoubt @ Mar 12 2009, 06:25 AM) *

I bought a can of Gravel Guard (I think it was called that) aerosol for my valences. It went on with a Schutz-like texture and matched very closely to the texture on the rocker panels. It didn't require a special applicator gun.


Pete,

My opinion: I strongly suggest a texured surface, painted satin black to look factory. I think you will be happy with the results.

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post Mar 12 2009, 09:01 AM
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Scotty, who makes "rocker guard" and where to buy?
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post Mar 12 2009, 10:13 AM
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The only thing about the rubberized stuff like body shutze is it seems to dull a little too much after time. The spraycan gravel guard is ok but you gotta do two steps and it is more trouble to work out if it gets bent enough to require repainting. The whole panel may need to be stripped to match it up. The same applys to the body shutz. It seems like the satin enamels would be the easiest to do but the texture may not look exactly right.

I got a 18 oz. can of 3m rocker panel spray from the ppg dealer. It's 05911 The inst. say to primer over it before it's top coated. It does say not to use over refinish enamels or urethane paints.
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post Mar 12 2009, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Mar 11 2009, 05:04 PM) *

I would use the factory original finish, fibergalss or steel. - Body Shutz. It goes on with a low pressure gun (30-35 psi) and can be painted or left alone.

It's rubberized, so it takes hits & keeps on coming. Easy to remove if need be.

Don't get why anyone uses anything else.


I'm not aware of Body Schutz or any other textured finish having been used on my 1976 original metal front and rear valences and rockers. The finish appears to be black paint. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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I believe original valances and rockers had some sort of texture. Not real rough but not smooth paint.
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post Mar 12 2009, 01:17 PM
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[quote name='Thomas J Bliznik' date='Mar 12 2009, 06:36 AM' post='1144852']
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(scotty b @ Mar 11 2009, 04:45 PM) *</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Another option is spray some rocker gaurd on them then paint over that black. The rocker guard is made to be painted over. That WILL give it a light texture but it wouldn't look bad IMO. I put it on the bottom edges of Mikes bus.
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[quote name='zonedoubt' post='1144851' date='Mar 12 2009, 06:25 AM']
I bought a can of Gravel Guard (I think it was called that) aerosol for my valences. It went on with a Schutz-like texture and matched very closely to the texture on the rocker panels. It didn't require a special applicator gun.
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Pete,

My opinion: I strongly suggest a texured surface, painted satin black to look factory. I think you will be happy with the results.

Tom
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I agree. I had a paint shop redo my rockers and front and rear valences, and they put some tough textured black paint on them (without asking). I thought I'd hate it when I was told, but it looks great.
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[quote name='Thomas J Bliznik' date='Mar 12 2009, 06:36 AM' post='1144852']
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(scotty b @ Mar 11 2009, 04:45 PM) *</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
Another option is spray some rocker gaurd on them then paint over that black. The rocker guard is made to be painted over. That WILL give it a light texture but it wouldn't look bad IMO. I put it on the bottom edges of Mikes bus.
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[quote name='zonedoubt' post='1144851' date='Mar 12 2009, 06:25 AM']
I bought a can of Gravel Guard (I think it was called that) aerosol for my valences. It went on with a Schutz-like texture and matched very closely to the texture on the rocker panels. It didn't require a special applicator gun.
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Pete,

My opinion: I strongly suggest a texured surface, painted satin black to look factory. I think you will be happy with the results.


Tom
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Pete,

I snapped a close up of my finish on the rear valance. This is what I have & it looks close to factory as I could make it. Whatever you do just make sure it's satin black.

Tom


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