Best satin black spray paint for rockers and valances?, Looking for long-term chip resistance... |
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Best satin black spray paint for rockers and valances?, Looking for long-term chip resistance... |
horizontally-opposed |
Mar 11 2009, 04:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Powdercoating is out because I am going with fiberglass for the front and rear pieces. Also like the future repair-ability of normal paint. That said, I'd like to figure out the best stuff to use, and am going for a smooth, satin-black finish.
What have others tried? What has worked well for you? Any prep hints past the usual would be welcomed, as well. Thanks, pete |
monkeyboy |
Mar 11 2009, 05:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 8-June 08 From: Los Angeles, Ca Member No.: 9,147 Region Association: None |
BBQ paint is usually pretty tough. That would be my first guess.
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southernmost914 |
Mar 11 2009, 05:07 PM
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KEY WEST/HAVANA Tunnel Authority Group: Members Posts: 338 Joined: 16-October 07 From: Key West/ St. Augie, Fl USA Member No.: 8,234 Region Association: South East States |
Wurth trim paint satin finish is the correct answer. I used Rustoleum satin black and it came out great and is pretty tough stuff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Steve |
PRS914-6 |
Mar 11 2009, 06:27 PM
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None |
Pete, talk to your painter. You can shoot it a satin and have it clear coated with a chip resistant clear like they use on the front of the newer cars. It's an additive to make it less brittle. Don't know the name but I had that option when we sprayed mine.
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scotty b |
Mar 11 2009, 06:45 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Another option is spray some rocker gaurd on them then paint over that black. The rocker guard is made to be painted over. That WILL give it a light texture but it wouldn't look bad IMO. I put it on the bottom edges of Mikes bus.
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VaccaRabite |
Mar 11 2009, 06:59 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Rustolium satin black.
Reapply as needed, but the stuff is pretty tough. Zach |
Pat Garvey |
Mar 11 2009, 07:04 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Powdercoating is out because I am going with fiberglass for the front and rear pieces. Also like the future repair-ability of normal paint. That said, I'd like to figure out the best stuff to use, and am going for a smooth, satin-black finish. What have others tried? What has worked well for you? Any prep hints past the usual would be welcomed, as well. Thanks, pete Pete, I would use the factory original finish, fibergalss or steel. - Body Shutz. It goes on with a low pressure gun (30-35 psi) and can be painted or left alone. It's rubberized, so it takes hits & keeps on coming. Easy to remove if need be. Don't get why anyone uses anything else. Pat |
VaccaRabite |
Mar 11 2009, 07:10 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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pete-stevers |
Mar 11 2009, 07:20 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,642 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
or you could just reshoot it every couple of years
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kart54 |
Mar 11 2009, 07:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 544 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Ventura, California Member No.: 3,520 |
Krylon Satin Black or semi flat black depending on where you live. Comes in a can, holds up very well, inexpensive versus almost everything else and can be resprayed with ease if it starts to look at all bad.
Kart54 |
Cheapsnake |
Mar 12 2009, 07:31 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 15-November 07 From: Door County, WI Member No.: 8,341 |
I used Krylon Hi Heat on my Cobra's sidepipes, wetsanded with 1200 and buffed with polishing compound. It comes out looking like black chrome and lasts a season before needing a touchup. I tried using RustOLeum but it doesn't rub down to the same lustre, wants to stay flat.
It's what I plan on using on my rockers if I ever get that far. (IMG:http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f123/Cheapsnake/leftrear.jpg) |
dflesburg |
Mar 12 2009, 08:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Don't get why anyone uses anything else. Pat 'cause I dont drink anymore and Cheeze clogs me up... I use some leftover GM black from my Grand Prix and flatten it with flattener... When thats gone, Rustoleum Satin looks nice, and its cheap. |
zonedoubt |
Mar 12 2009, 08:25 AM
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Canadian Member Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 14-May 03 From: Vancouver, BC Member No.: 696 Region Association: Canada |
I bought a can of Gravel Guard (I think it was called that) aerosol for my valences. It went on with a Schutz-like texture and matched very closely to the texture on the rocker panels. It didn't require a special applicator gun.
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TJB/914 |
Mar 12 2009, 08:36 AM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,336 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Another option is spray some rocker gaurd on them then paint over that black. The rocker guard is made to be painted over. That WILL give it a light texture but it wouldn't look bad IMO. I put it on the bottom edges of Mikes bus. I bought a can of Gravel Guard (I think it was called that) aerosol for my valences. It went on with a Schutz-like texture and matched very closely to the texture on the rocker panels. It didn't require a special applicator gun. Pete, My opinion: I strongly suggest a texured surface, painted satin black to look factory. I think you will be happy with the results. Tom |
Porsche Rescue |
Mar 12 2009, 09:01 AM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
Scotty, who makes "rocker guard" and where to buy?
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charliew |
Mar 12 2009, 10:13 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
The only thing about the rubberized stuff like body shutze is it seems to dull a little too much after time. The spraycan gravel guard is ok but you gotta do two steps and it is more trouble to work out if it gets bent enough to require repainting. The whole panel may need to be stripped to match it up. The same applys to the body shutz. It seems like the satin enamels would be the easiest to do but the texture may not look exactly right.
I got a 18 oz. can of 3m rocker panel spray from the ppg dealer. It's 05911 The inst. say to primer over it before it's top coated. It does say not to use over refinish enamels or urethane paints. |
maf914 |
Mar 12 2009, 12:21 PM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None |
I would use the factory original finish, fibergalss or steel. - Body Shutz. It goes on with a low pressure gun (30-35 psi) and can be painted or left alone. It's rubberized, so it takes hits & keeps on coming. Easy to remove if need be. Don't get why anyone uses anything else. I'm not aware of Body Schutz or any other textured finish having been used on my 1976 original metal front and rear valences and rockers. The finish appears to be black paint. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
Porsche Rescue |
Mar 12 2009, 12:36 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
I believe original valances and rockers had some sort of texture. Not real rough but not smooth paint.
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bembry |
Mar 12 2009, 01:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 29-July 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
[quote name='Thomas J Bliznik' date='Mar 12 2009, 06:36 AM' post='1144852']
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(scotty b @ Mar 11 2009, 04:45 PM) </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Another option is spray some rocker gaurd on them then paint over that black. The rocker guard is made to be painted over. That WILL give it a light texture but it wouldn't look bad IMO. I put it on the bottom edges of Mikes bus. [/quote] [quote name='zonedoubt' post='1144851' date='Mar 12 2009, 06:25 AM'] I bought a can of Gravel Guard (I think it was called that) aerosol for my valences. It went on with a Schutz-like texture and matched very closely to the texture on the rocker panels. It didn't require a special applicator gun. [/quote] Pete, My opinion: I strongly suggest a texured surface, painted satin black to look factory. I think you will be happy with the results. Tom [/quote] I agree. I had a paint shop redo my rockers and front and rear valences, and they put some tough textured black paint on them (without asking). I thought I'd hate it when I was told, but it looks great. |
TJB/914 |
Mar 12 2009, 01:21 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,336 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
[quote name='Thomas J Bliznik' date='Mar 12 2009, 06:36 AM' post='1144852']
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(scotty b @ Mar 11 2009, 04:45 PM) </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Another option is spray some rocker gaurd on them then paint over that black. The rocker guard is made to be painted over. That WILL give it a light texture but it wouldn't look bad IMO. I put it on the bottom edges of Mikes bus. [/quote] [quote name='zonedoubt' post='1144851' date='Mar 12 2009, 06:25 AM'] I bought a can of Gravel Guard (I think it was called that) aerosol for my valences. It went on with a Schutz-like texture and matched very closely to the texture on the rocker panels. It didn't require a special applicator gun. [/quote] Pete, My opinion: I strongly suggest a texured surface, painted satin black to look factory. I think you will be happy with the results. Tom [/quote] Pete, I snapped a close up of my finish on the rear valance. This is what I have & it looks close to factory as I could make it. Whatever you do just make sure it's satin black. Tom Attached thumbnail(s) |
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