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| SteveSr |
 Feb 25 2004, 05:59 AM
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| GaroldShaffer |
Feb 25 2004, 08:39 AM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,622 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None 
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Kool Steve, can't wait to see the complete car!
- Garold |
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| seanery |
Feb 25 2004, 08:40 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
is that the throttle body on the back of the motor?
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| thesey914 |
Feb 25 2004, 08:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,155 Joined: 1-January 03 From: Staffordshire -England Member No.: 66 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Which V6 is it? How much HP etc..?
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| SteveSr |
Feb 25 2004, 09:03 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Knox,In. Member No.: 1,223 |
It's a GM 60degree V6,3.1 ltr.stock 140 HP.
After I swap on the top end from a 3.4........camshaft...headers... ect....ect...I hoping for 180 or so HP.............. Yes,thats the throttle body,the engine is out of a front wheel drive car. Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| 3d914 |
Feb 25 2004, 02:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,275 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Benson, AZ Member No.: 1,191 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Steve,
Too cool! Nice fab work in trunk. Was it necessary to slice up the trunk and the rear engine bay? Are you building a racer or just street rod? |
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| fiid |
Feb 25 2004, 04:08 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(SteveSr @ Feb 25 2004, 07:03 AM) It's a GM 60degree V6,3.1 ltr.stock 140 HP. After I swap on the top end from a 3.4........camshaft...headers... ect....ect...I hoping for 180 or so HP.............. Yes,thats the throttle body,the engine is out of a front wheel drive car. Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) I think that's the same motor I had in my '92 V6 firebird. It was torquey as all get out. Loved that car - even though it was frowned upon by almost everyone I know. |
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| SteveSr |
Feb 26 2004, 06:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Knox,In. Member No.: 1,223 |
Probably wasn't necessary to cut the trunk up,but hey , easy access now to the exhaust and tranny.
For now it will be an autoxer and sunday fun car,but who knows? Could be a racer later. I like this motor,my wife has a 94' Grandprix with the same engine in it and it flys! Just think what it will do in the lighter 914! Steve |
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| SteveSr |
Feb 26 2004, 09:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Knox,In. Member No.: 1,223 |
Anyone have any idea/opinion about what springs to use on this car?
I would like adjustable spring perches on the rear and coilovers on the front. The engine weighs 85lbs. more than the stock 914 motor. The car has no front sway bar now,do I need one in the rear? To answer Gerard's question further...the throttle body and water outlet were hitting the bulkhead between the trunk and the engine bay...... Steve |
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| Bleyseng |
Feb 26 2004, 09:44 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
For AXing you don't need a rear bar.
Springs depend on what Tbars you have in front, forget the front coilovers for now. Get a balanced spring/Tbar setup with a front sway bar and Koni Yellows |
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| Mike T |
Feb 26 2004, 09:45 AM
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can't 'member Group: Members Posts: 378 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Brackney, PA Member No.: 161 |
What exhaust manifolds are you using? Headers? Stock?
I had a GM 60° (2.8 liter) in my 914 autocrosser for 6 years. (see my avatar) Made a nice power upgrade. I never found a set of headers that would fit without modification although S-10 4X4 from Cyclone came very close. Mike T |
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| jhs914 |
Feb 26 2004, 10:55 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Milton, FL Member No.: 514 |
Steve,
I have a 2.8 V6 (1976 Mercury Capri II) installed by the PO. Mine has 140 lb. rear springs. Don't know the height of the springs or who sold them, but they are painted gold, if that means anything. The PO did this conversion back in 1980, so who knows where he got the springs. The car sits level and has a firm, but not harsh ride. My engine has cast iron heads and it appears yours has aluminum, so I might be a little heavier. Like you, I do not have sway bars, but plan on adding a front bar. |
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| fiid |
Feb 26 2004, 11:28 AM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
Hey,
I would definately look at a front sway bar. If you want the car to "turn" well for AX- some people add rear bars and leave them unhooked for everything except AX. I have a 1.7 with 175 pound rear springs enad the eibach coilover kit. I also have 23mm torsion bars at the front and mueller's bearings all around, with Koni Sports. My car is a bit of a hard ride until you get it up to speed. My car is very smooth and handles pretty well at the track - I have not AXed yet with the new setup though. If you want a streety handly thing with occasional AX I would think about 140s and maybe 19mm sways. Also - do think about going with the roller bearing setup. Your mileage may vary. |
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| SteveSr |
Feb 26 2004, 12:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Knox,In. Member No.: 1,223 |
Ok,so 140# springs on Ground Control style rear shocks and a front sway (19MM) with yellow Koni's,so why not put coil overs on the front too? Easily adjustable ride height all around. they look easy enough build.................
Steve |
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| SteveSr |
Feb 26 2004, 12:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Knox,In. Member No.: 1,223 |
Like this......................
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| Mueller |
Feb 26 2004, 12:12 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE they look easy enough build................. see all that extra welding near the top of the strut assembly.??? .....it's not a bolt on upgrade unless you plan on having the sheetmetal tear it's way off of the car due to it not being designed for those type of loads........ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) |
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| SteveSr |
Feb 26 2004, 02:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Knox,In. Member No.: 1,223 |
Ok,point well taken.Something I didn't even think about... BUT, not impossible right?
If I have to weld in stiffer metal,might as well add camber boxes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Steve |
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| SteveSr |
Feb 27 2004, 11:54 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Knox,In. Member No.: 1,223 |
After looking at my own post I see that this guy has converted to 5 bolt hubs in the front ,so maybe it would be good to hold off on the coil over coversion until I switch to 911 struts..................would be a waste to build coilovers on 4 bolt hubs... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
Steve |
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| stock93 |
Feb 27 2004, 02:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 333 Joined: 12-May 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 684 Region Association: South East States |
Did you just put the kit together yourself for installing this engine? What made you decide to do this engine over a 350? Weight?
I've been looking at using the 3.1 in both my rail and possibly 914. Did you have any real problems that you wouldnt know about until you have actually done it that you could give me a heads up on? Nice work. Driven it yet? John |
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| SteveSr |
Feb 27 2004, 02:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Knox,In. Member No.: 1,223 |
John,
The engine adapter is from Kennedy Engineered Products in Pomona California, they re-machined my stock 914 fly wheel and made the adapter plate. It bolted together like it was made originally....no problems.The front engine mount I made using the stock 914 engine mount bar,The rear trans axle mounting is in the stock location. I chose this engine because it is torquey, good smooth power,tons of room on either side of the engine for working on and yes, the weight. I was even able to get the engine running using the factory fuel injection that was on the V6 when I got it.I had it hooked up to the 914 electric system and had it running on the engine stand next to the car last winter. No, I haven't driven it yet but can't wait! Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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