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> Should I buy a teener with engine trouble ? pic n add attached, What people wanna know about is Tyrus Raymond Cobb_I invented the game
sam quartermain
post Apr 9 2009, 01:46 PM
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Yes I know the pic's are vague at best , I'm going to see the car in person , this weekend I hope.

What i'm really trying to determine is price. How much is it going to require to make a teener like this a driver .

I'm not looking for breakneck speed , just nice reliable teener.

Is this a good buy , A money pit , in between .


What would everyone on this post do . Buy a already done driver . or work on something like this , and save some $$$


74 Porsche 914 - $2500 (La Verne)




1974 Porsche 914 for sale - Engine needs work - Car not running - Good Condition - Interior torn - Exterior paint is red and in good cond.
4 cylinder, 5 spd manual transmission
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post Apr 9 2009, 02:27 PM
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there are way too many questions, you cant judge a car on that description, or those pics. It is pretty, but...

what lies beneath??
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post Apr 9 2009, 02:33 PM
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I wouldn't pay $2500 for a non-running car, unless it was otherwise excellent condition. It could easily cost you another $2500 just to get it to run... and non-running means you have no idea what condition the transmission is in.
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post Apr 9 2009, 03:14 PM
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If you want a reliable teener you should start with one that runs.
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post Apr 9 2009, 03:29 PM
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I'd keep looking. For 2500 I think you can find something better, at least something that runs. good luck!
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post Apr 9 2009, 03:37 PM
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WHAT? WIth those amazing door panels, I can't believe you haven't snatched that thing up.

Heck, why do you need it to run? You can stare at the interior better when you are not driving it!!!

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btw, I agree that unless you have a wealth of T4 parts and have rebuilt a few, it is better to get one that already runs.
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post Apr 9 2009, 03:37 PM
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gotta love that Early VW GTI inspired upholstery..

I agree the rest of the car has gotta be pretty spotless for a non running one to be worth $2500
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post Apr 9 2009, 03:41 PM
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you can't build a car and save $$$, it works the other way, you build your own car and you throw tons of money into it. Save money by buying the best car you can find. If your not sure if its a good one, let someone who knows 914s look at it.
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post Apr 9 2009, 03:48 PM
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You need to specifically ask about any noise the engine prior to it not running anymore. Based on what the owner describes could make or break the deal for you.

For example:

If the engine made no noise, but one day wouldn't start anymore it could be the fuel system or the ignition system both which are relatively easy & inexpensive to fix.

Please note relatively

On the other hand, if the owner said the engine made a "bang, bang" "thunk, thunk" or "clunk, clunk" noise, more than likely you'd be looking at a full tear down, replacing most everything. Ergo, not worth $2500.

Since the ad says firm, I bet the owner has a pretty good idea what is wrong with the car.
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post Apr 9 2009, 04:00 PM
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Hell, buy it and I will sell you an engine.

Door #1: 2.0L ... Didn't make any noise, ran like a Bat Outta Hell, but don't try to do a valve adjustment on #3 intake .... the seat is pulling thru the head.

Door #2: 2.0L ... didn't make any noise, was low on power. I'll get to it someday.

Door #3: 2.0L ... just bought it ... wants to fire, but injection has set for 12+ years. I'll get to it someday too!

There ya go .......................................................
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post Apr 9 2009, 04:11 PM
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Since you want a driver, this is probably an opportunity to avoid.
But here's a counterpoint: $2500 for a straight, RUST-FREE roller is a deal on the East Coast. You can buy an engine. You can buy a transmission. You will PAY DEARLY to be rid of rust.

While it might not matter nowadays, there might be some value in knowing if it was originally a 2,0 or a 1,8 -- I think an original 2,0 has a bit more intrinsic value -- although from the looks, any 2,0-specific parts (e.g. Appearance Group) are long gone too.

The difference in value between a non-runner and a driver is the price of an engine. Any 30-year-old used car is going to need the same stuff whether it's running or not - brakes, dampers, interior bits...

If $2500 plus an engine (shop around for prices, there is no upper bound...) is more than you want to spend for a reliable driver, what _is_ what you're willing to spend for a reliable driver? (This is a rhetorical question - I don't care the answer but you must know it...) Is _that_ number reasonable?

Maybe 914 prices are seriously depressed these days but I think the day of the solid, reliable $1000 914 are long over.
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post Apr 9 2009, 05:17 PM
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You've been wasting our time for the last 3 months - just buy a God Damn car or move on to a Miata.
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post Apr 9 2009, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Apr 9 2009, 04:17 PM) *

You've been wasting our time for the last 3 months - just buy a God Damn car or move on to a Miata.



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post Apr 9 2009, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Apr 9 2009, 07:17 PM) *

You've been wasting our time for the last 3 months - just buy a God Damn car or move on to a Miata.


Why such an asshole?
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post Apr 9 2009, 08:10 PM
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Apologise if people consider my post to to mean I'm an asshole. Quartermain has been posting car after car for us to peruse to see if he should buy it. We have said go for it on multiple occasions. But yet he persists, but doesn't buy.

T.C.

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post Apr 9 2009, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Apr 9 2009, 08:39 PM) *

QUOTE(carr914 @ Apr 9 2009, 07:17 PM) *

You've been wasting our time for the last 3 months - just buy a God Damn car or move on to a Miata.


Why such an asshole?


I believe he's growing impatient with the number of "should I buy this car" posts.

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post Apr 9 2009, 08:23 PM
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At least he's still looking. Sounds like he'll find a nice one. He's just being careful & trying to find a good one. I'm glad he keeps asking. I'd much rather we help him find a good solid 914. Especially for his first go around. No need for him to get screwed with a money pit of a 914. Take your time Sam & your car will present itself. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 9 2009, 08:33 PM
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Damn (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)

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Tough crowd these days.

Couple of rules ...

No mechanical/electrical ability ... run and don't look back

Some mechanical/electrical ability ... go for it and buy a running engine for anywhere between $1200 used and $5500 new and hope the rest of it is "good to go".

Good mechanical/electrical ability ... knock yourself out.
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post Apr 10 2009, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Apr 9 2009, 07:10 PM) *

Apologise if people consider my post to to mean I'm an asshole. Quartermain has been posting car after car for us to peruse to see if he should buy it. We have said go for it on multiple occasions. But yet he persists, but doesn't buy.

T.C.



You dont have a point of view , your not not worth killing" ty Cobb

Save the sob stories for the book , stumps
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PATIENCE GRASSHOPPER ..ONLY YOU WILL KNOW WHEN ITS RIGHT
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