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| Porsche Rescue |
 Apr 24 2009, 05:01 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches  Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None  |
I have a non-appearance group '70. Body color bumpers are Irish green. The rear tow hook plug is now black. I am about to re-paint the bumper and assumed the button should be green too. Looked in PET and found both a black and chrome button listed. Does this mean that all painted bumpers should have a black plug, regardless of the color of the bumper? Anybody know/remember?
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Apr 24 2009, 05:09 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,832 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Porsche Rescue @ Apr 24 2009, 04:01 PM)  I have a non-appearance group '70. Body color bumpers are Irish Green. The rear tow hook plug is now black. I am about to re-paint the bumper and assumed the button should be green too. Looked in PET and found both a black and chrome button listed. Does this mean that all painted bumpers should have a black plug, regardless of the color of the bumper? Anybody know/remember? paint to match yes. green!!!! |
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| Porsche Rescue |
Apr 24 2009, 05:21 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
Thank you Dr. Must mean that replacements are black, paint to match, correct?
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| Pat Garvey |
Apr 25 2009, 07:42 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(Porsche Rescue @ Apr 24 2009, 05:01 PM) I have a non-appearance group '70. Body color bumpers are Irish green. The rear tow hook plug is now black. I am about to re-paint the bumper and assumed the button should be green too. Looked in PET and found both a black and chrome button listed. Does this mean that all painted bumpers should have a black plug, regardless of the color of the bumper? Anybody know/remember? Plug should be body colored or chrome, depending upon the rear bumper color. No diff's that I've ever heard of on a STOCK 914. Pat |
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| Johny Blackstain |
 May 3 2009, 10:48 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Apr 24 2009, 07:09 PM) paint to match yes. green!!!! George- why did you leave my LE plug black? Is it supposed to be Phoenix Red? |
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| MDG |
May 3 2009, 12:07 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ May 3 2009, 12:48 PM) QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Apr 24 2009, 07:09 PM) paint to match yes. green!!!! George- why did you leave my LE plug black? Is it supposed to be Phoenix Red? That's a good question. I thought the bumper plug and the jack post covers were left black on the LEs. I notice on George's restored show winner the bumper plug is L32K (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) love your car by the way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) m. |
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| Johny Blackstain |
May 3 2009, 12:39 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(MDG @ May 3 2009, 02:07 PM) That's a good question. I thought the bumper plug and the jack post covers were left black on the LEs. I notice on George's restored show winner the bumper plug is L32K (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) love your car by the way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) m. Danke! I know the jack post covers are supposed to be black, but I can't remember if the bumper plug is supposed to be painted phoenix red, aka chevy engine block orange (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . I seem to think it's supposed to be painted, but I'm not sure. George? Jeff B? |
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| MDG |
May 3 2009, 02:25 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
If you check out some of the pics on Jeff's site I think you'll see the majority are black. To be honest, until you asked your question I'd never noticed.
Uh-oh Goerge, you might have to re-paint your tow hole plug (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| Johny Blackstain |
May 3 2009, 02:29 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(MDG @ May 3 2009, 04:25 PM) Uh-oh Goerge, you might have to re-paint your tow hole plug (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) If so, it's not a big deal... I kid you not- Phoenix Red is so close to Chevy engine block orange that it's virtually impossible to tell them apart. I keep it handy for wheel touch up paint. Chevy engine block orange is available at just about any auto parts store in the US. |
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| MDG |
May 3 2009, 02:41 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
I know L32K well; see my avatar (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| Johny Blackstain |
May 4 2009, 04:31 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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George? Jeff? Well? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| Pat Garvey |
May 4 2009, 07:10 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
I reiterate - body color! Been there.
Pat |
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| Johny Blackstain |
May 5 2009, 08:37 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ May 4 2009, 09:10 PM) I reiterate - body color! Been there. Pat White? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Think you meant to say bumper, Pat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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| MDG |
May 5 2009, 08:59 AM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
for sure George and Pat are correct on the early cars with body coloured bumpers the plug was painted to match.
As I said earlier, this is something I have never noticed before and not owning an LE, I have done zero research other than occasionally admiring some pics. But on Jeff's LE site, where as you know he has many shots of many cars, there seem to be some with black and some painted to match the bumpers. It's possible they came painted to match and when/if replaced black ones went on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| Porsche Rescue |
May 5 2009, 09:04 AM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
As I noted in the original post, the Porsche parts catalog lists two different buttons, black and chrome. Replacements for non-appearance bumpers were black. Porsche would not stock buttons in every possible color. I suspect that many were lost and replaced without being painted to match. That is probably what happened in my case. I am painting it green.
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| Johny Blackstain |
May 5 2009, 10:09 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I now remember why I could not recall before. My Pop had the front bumper & spoiler, along w/ the back bumper painted black @ the dealer. He left the rear valence phoenix red. When I picked up the car after the repaint @ AA I was stunned how orange the car was & realized it came that way before Pop had it painted. Still, I noticed the black plug on the back instantly & have been puzzled about it since.
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| Porsche Rescue |
May 5 2009, 10:22 AM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
I'm guessing the painter at AA forgot to paint the plug. Maybe time to apply the Chevy engine color match!
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| JeffBowlsby |
May 5 2009, 01:54 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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Here are 2 representative photos of what I beleive to be original LE cars, I have several othgers, just not as good of photos as these:
In looking through my whole collection of photos, LE cars have BLACK tow hole plugs. This makes sense to me...The only LE cars with painted plugs are known to have been restored...all the original cars have black plastic trim. 914 trim in 1974 was primarily black plastic...tailbadges, washer jets, foglight grills. A black plastic plug would fit with the scheme as well as saved on production costs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Attached image(s)  
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| JeffBowlsby |
May 5 2009, 01:59 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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Here are some more opics I found:
Its pretty clear to me that all chrome bumper cars were to have chrome tow hole plugs and black bumper cars had black plugs. I found no pics of body colored bumpers (with plugs), so your guess is as good as anyones. George should have a box full of various body-colored plugs if they were painted to match the bumpers. They would have been for 1970-73 cars only. The earliest cars, apparently did not have rear tow eyes or plugs, including the prototypes. Attached thumbnail(s)     Attached image(s) 
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| Johny Blackstain |
 May 5 2009, 03:47 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ May 5 2009, 03:54 PM) Here are 2 representative photos of what I beleive to be original LE cars, I have several othgers, just not as good of photos as these: In looking through my whole collection of photos, LE cars have BLACK tow hole plugs. This makes sense to me...The only LE cars with painted plugs are known to have been restored...all the original cars have black plastic trim. 914 trim in 1974 was primarily black plastic...tailbadges, washer jets, foglight grills. A black plastic plug would fit with the scheme as well as saved on production costs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Danke Jeff! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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