Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> relays, fully interchangeable??
jimkelly
post Jul 4 2009, 02:19 PM
Post #1


Delaware USA
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,969
Joined: 5-August 04
From: Delaware, USA
Member No.: 2,460
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region



are the four relays on the relay board fully interchangeable??

jim
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
blitZ
post Jul 4 2009, 02:45 PM
Post #2


Beer please...
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,223
Joined: 31-August 05
From: Lawrenceville, GA
Member No.: 4,719
Region Association: South East States



Yes. I just picked up some new aftermarket relays on Ebay for a decent price, if you need some.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jimkelly
post Jul 4 2009, 03:28 PM
Post #3


Delaware USA
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,969
Joined: 5-August 04
From: Delaware, USA
Member No.: 2,460
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region



thanks and i appreciate the offer - i have some spares - after removing me injectors and spark plugs - i realized i was definitely not getting fule - i pulled the fule pump and it was getting power but not coming on - i will replace it and see what happens.

thanks

jim

--

QUOTE(blitZ @ Jul 4 2009, 01:45 PM) *

Yes. I just picked up some new aftermarket relays on Ebay for a decent price, if you need some.



Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
ericread
post Jul 4 2009, 06:10 PM
Post #4


The Viper Blue 914
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,177
Joined: 7-December 07
From: Irvine, CA (The OC)
Member No.: 8,432
Region Association: Southern California



My understanding was that the red relays were different from the black relays. Do a search on "+red +relay" and you should get additional information.

Eric Read

EDIT: Upon searching, I couldn't find my previous post... Anyway, the red relay is specifically for the engine. The black relays are totally interchangeable. I cannot remember specifically the difference between the red and the black relays... I think it had something to do with a delay circuit???? But I could be wrong.

Eric

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Larry.Hubby
post Jul 5 2009, 10:48 PM
Post #5


Member who doesn't post much, but has a long time in 914s
**

Group: Members
Posts: 189
Joined: 24-November 04
From: Palo Alto, CA
Member No.: 3,172
Region Association: Northern California



Red relays have diodes internally connected in parallel with the relay coil. This is usually done to prevent reverse voltage spikes that occur when the voltage to the relay coil is suddenly interrupted. When the interruption occurs, the reverse current all flows through the diode instead of wreaking havoc somewhere else in the electrical system. Red relays are used for the fuel pump on many 911 models, but I think none were used on any year of the 914. Not at all sure why Porsche did this, and didn't use them for any other relays on the 911. I used to think it was because an electronic circuit, the speed sensor rev limiter, drives the fuel pump relay on the 78 and later 911s, and that circuit might be vulnerable to reverse voltage spikes. I notice, however, that the 76 & 77 911s, which just drive the fuel pump relay straight from the ignition switch, also use a red relay for the fuel pump, so that can't be the reason.

Anyway, the biggest consequence of swapping a red and black relay is that the polarity of the voltage that drives the coil is important for a red relay. If the polarity is backwards with a red relay, the diode will cause a short, whereas it won't matter with a black relay.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 30th July 2025 - 02:58 PM