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post Apr 28 2010, 08:51 PM
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Seeing these pix is so sad. This very thing happened to a friend in 1973 to his '71 teener. I had made a highway repair on the injector hoses by shortening and clamping them when two of them broke while we were on a backpacking trip in North Carolina. It got us home...

Where I made him PROMISE to replace the parts at the dealer immediately after we got back to Columbia SC.

One year later it burned to the ground in front of us at the dorm. He leaned over while the firemen were trying to put the fire out and told me he probably should have replaced those injectors. Nuts

Good luck with this project.
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post Apr 29 2010, 12:49 AM
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Wow, very sad sight but hopefully it will be saved and returned to glory.

I have a 4L AFF Spa system and hope it would do its job if ever called upon...
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post Apr 29 2010, 12:30 PM
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So what are the most likely causes for a 914 to catch fire?
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post Apr 29 2010, 12:35 PM
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I am sorry for your loss
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post Apr 29 2010, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(patssle @ Apr 29 2010, 02:30 PM) *

So what are the most likely causes for a 914 to catch fire?

I would think #1 would be the old, brittle fuel lines. Are they the same on a /6?

(not trying to diagnose what happened to the original poster's car, just answering patssle's question!)
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post Apr 29 2010, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 28 2010, 04:37 PM) *

I met with Mathias last night. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

He, Wilco and Tobi are currently in the US scouting for possible shells and/or rollers.

Still breaks my heart looking at those pictures ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

We spent a lot of time washing down the pain with good German brew at my favorite local dive-bar!
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) Andy


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) Hurts to see something like this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) Hopefully there will be a rebirth in the future....like with Andy's shell (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

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post Apr 29 2010, 12:53 PM
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I am not familiar with the fi fuel pump wiring on the 914 but on a lot of gm cars the pump is started by the ignition sw in the start position and when oil pressure comes up the oil pressure sw keeps the pump running. No oil pressure no fuel. I do think that the additional oil and stuff on the motor probably helps keep the fire going and then any magnesium lights off on a air cooled motor. I guess a extenguisher system should be in the plans.
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post Apr 29 2010, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(charliew @ Apr 29 2010, 11:53 AM) *

I guess a extenguisher system should be in the plans.

Just to clarify, they went through 3 fire-extinguishers but had no luck putting the flames out.

This was a normal /6 street car. I doubt anyone here has a full race fire system or even more than one extinguisher in their street car.

In the end, all they could do was watch the car burn down and take pictures ...
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post Apr 29 2010, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 29 2010, 12:21 PM) *

QUOTE(charliew @ Apr 29 2010, 11:53 AM) *

I guess a extenguisher system should be in the plans.

Just to clarify, they went through 3 fire-extinguishers but had no luck putting the flames out.

This was a normal /6 street car. I doubt anyone here has a full race fire system or even more than one extinguisher in their street car.

In the end, all they could do was watch the car burn down and take pictures ...
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So what's the best course of action? Fuel cut off, changing fuel lines every 3-5 years?
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post Apr 29 2010, 02:23 PM
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Is this 914 being rebuilt?
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post Apr 29 2010, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(RobW @ Apr 29 2010, 12:33 PM) *

So what's the best course of action? Fuel cut off, changing fuel lines every 3-5 years?


I would say #1 thing is to check all fuel lines, connections, tank and induction system thoroughly and frequently.

Years ago I could have lost my previous D-Jet 914 2.0 due to a cracked injector. It was spewing gas right on top of the engine, over the heat exchangers. Fortunately an angel or something gave me a nudge and I popped the lid and noticed it before driving to work that day.

My current car is track-prepped of course so everything related to fuel (and brakes) has been replaced and upgraded, but "stuff" can still go wrong at any time.
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post Apr 29 2010, 09:21 PM
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I hate seeing this thread every time it gets bumped - such a nice car. Exactly what I want mine to look like.
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post Apr 29 2010, 11:41 PM
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You know I think about my sons suby, when we first fired up the new motor we ran it for about fifteen minutes at 2500 to try and break the new cams and buckets in and it was after dark. We were in my shop with the door open for the exhaust to go outside with the shop lights on and I put a fan on in front of the radiator and just happen to look down for leaks and the headers were glowing dull red, I can see how easy it would be to have a bad thing happen. I haven't checked any of my fire extenguishers in several years. I hate to say it but if it had caught on fire I would have pushed it outside before going for the waterhose.
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post Apr 30 2010, 06:24 AM
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I have heard of 914's catching fire before and burning to the ground. Very sad whether the car is a 4 or a 6. I can guarantee you when my six is being re-built it is going to have an on-board fire system installed with sufficient nozzles to hopefully address any problem should there ever be a problem. Very awakening pictures. Hopefully we will all give this some serious thought. Very sad loss.
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post Apr 30 2010, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Apr 29 2010, 01:23 PM) *

Is this 914 being rebuilt?

I'm not sure. The fire has weakened the metal and made it very soft.

You probably would have to find a '72 chassis and do a VIN swap ...
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post May 1 2010, 05:38 AM
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post May 1 2010, 09:21 AM
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Weeping fuel injectors and aged fuel lines. The car I'm refreshing right now has both.
I'm refreshing the $1000 car my oldest drove thru high school. It will be my forever daily driver. Might think about putting in a fire system after seeing this. Both sons were taught if you smell gas. Don't start the car, call dad.
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post Jun 19 2012, 04:25 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 30 2010, 08:03 PM) *

QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Apr 29 2010, 01:23 PM) *

Is this 914 being rebuilt?

I'm not sure. The fire has weakened the metal and made it very soft.

You probably would have to find a '72 chassis and do a VIN swap ...
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The six is on a good way for a rebirth.
But the hunt for good OE sheet metal is the challenge.
We are on the way to get the last missing parts.

The engine will be again a 2.7S but now converted to carbs
away from the cr@ppy high pressure K-Jetronic.

The six is actual 60% done so I think it will be back on
the street in the next 24 months. .....hopefully
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post Jun 19 2012, 07:40 AM
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Nice!
Please keep us posted....
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post Jun 19 2012, 09:55 AM
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Very glad to hear this car is on the way to being back on the road again. Hopefully a fire supression system is in the build sheet.
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