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| IronHillRestorations |
 Aug 7 2009, 11:59 PM
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I. I. R. C.  Group: Members Posts: 6,724 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None 
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Are these new or used carbs? If you think a throttle shaft is leaking air you can glob some grease around it and the lean condition would temporarily improve.
One thing I forgot to put in my carb tuning post is to check the accelerator pump volume, and make sure they are all equal. |
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| nycchef |
Aug 8 2009, 07:33 AM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(9146986 @ Aug 7 2009, 09:59 PM)  Are these new or used carbs? If you think a throttle shaft is leaking air you can glob some grease around it and the lean condition would temporarily improve. One thing I forgot to put in my carb tuning post is to check the accelerator pump volume, and make sure they are all equal. used. how do you check the accelerator volume? |
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| mojorisen914 |
Aug 8 2009, 08:13 AM
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Visit your local strip club Group: Members Posts: 695 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Denver Colorado Member No.: 6,403 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'm at work and don't have time to read over the whole thread but the first pic you posted shows a fuel line with no clamp. Don't forget to put a clamp on that line or you won't be worrying about synching carbs anymore.
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| jmill |
Aug 8 2009, 10:12 AM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE(nycchef @ Aug 8 2009, 08:33 AM) used. how do you check the accelerator volume? Measure cc's per barrel per stroke. That's not your problem though. You don't have acceleration issues. If you want to do a quick and easy check just open the butterfly with the engine off. Check that you have equal and even fuel streams coming from your pump jets. |
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| nycchef |
Aug 8 2009, 07:57 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(mojorisen914 @ Aug 8 2009, 06:13 AM) I'm at work and don't have time to read over the whole thread but the first pic you posted shows a fuel line with no clamp. Don't forget to put a clamp on that line or you won't be worrying about synching carbs anymore. those ain't my carbs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) |
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| nycchef |
Aug 9 2009, 03:07 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
here's todays bad news. i replaced the plug wires. cleaned and regapped the plugs, new dizzy cap, have spark on all 4 cylinders, timing is on, dwell around 48, blew out all the circuits and jets on both carbs, accelerator pump seems to be squirted the same on both carbs switched the carbs from one side to another. same problem ,same barrel. still does not stutter when i remove the #2 wire. no adjustment on the carbs has any effect, 2 new bits of info. when i cover the other 3 barrels with my hand the engine starts to stall, when i cover #2 it races a little then starts to stall. i looked into the barrels after i turn the car off. i see fog in all barrels except #2. #2 is clear. what am i missing?
neil here are the compression # #1 150 #2 145 #3 145 #4 160 engine cold throttle open |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Aug 9 2009, 06:59 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,724 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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So you have the same problem on #2 regardless of carb?
Recheck your valve adjustment, with the engine stone cold. |
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| nycchef |
Aug 9 2009, 07:26 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(9146986 @ Aug 9 2009, 04:59 PM) So you have the same problem on #2 regardless of carb? Recheck your valve adjustment, with the engine stone cold. .k think i got it. tore it down to the manifolds. took off the cheap cb performance cardboard gaskets they sold me. put the old rubber ones back on, a healthy dose of gasket sealer and it seems to be o.k. 7 psi all round , no popping and the engine stutters when i pull the #2 plyug. i cannot be less impressed with cb performance.thank you all. lets see if it lasts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| neil30076 |
Aug 9 2009, 07:44 PM
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Recovering dismantler! Group: Members Posts: 397 Joined: 12-September 06 From: San Diego ( RB) CA Member No.: 6,826 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(nycchef @ Aug 9 2009, 06:26 PM) QUOTE(9146986 @ Aug 9 2009, 04:59 PM) So you have the same problem on #2 regardless of carb? Recheck your valve adjustment, with the engine stone cold. .k think i got it. tore it down to the manifolds. took off the cheap cb performance cardboard gaskets they sold me. put the old rubber ones back on, a healthy dose of gasket sealer and it seems to be o.k. 7 psi all round , no popping and the engine stutters when i pull the #2 plyug. i cannot be less impressed with cb performance.thank you all. lets see if it lasts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Nice find, Rich - like I said on the phone - it was a crappy gasket that got me also! |
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| type11969 |
Aug 9 2009, 07:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
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| tat2dphreak |
Aug 9 2009, 07:59 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) good job!!
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| nycchef |
Aug 9 2009, 08:03 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
Nice find, Rich - like I said on the phone - it was a crappy gasket that got me also!
[/quote] thanks neil if you hadn't told me to switch the carbs i wouldn't have caught it |
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| iamchappy |
Aug 9 2009, 09:07 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest  |
Ok enough already Chef, it will be winter soon, Bout time we hear - Stick a fork in it it's done......
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| jmill |
Aug 9 2009, 09:39 PM
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| ME733 |
Aug 11 2009, 12:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 842 Joined: 25-June 08 From: Atlanta Ga. Member No.: 9,209 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(nycchef @ Aug 9 2009, 09:26 PM) QUOTE(9146986 @ Aug 9 2009, 04:59 PM) So you have the same problem on #2 regardless of carb? Recheck your valve adjustment, with the engine stone cold. .k think i got it. tore it down to the manifolds. took off the cheap cb performance cardboard gaskets they sold me. put the old rubber ones back on, a healthy dose of gasket sealer and it seems to be o.k. 7 psi all round , no popping and the engine stutters when i pull the #2 plyug. i cannot be less impressed with cb performance.thank you all. lets see if it lasts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) ..read post 55 again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) . |
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| jmill |
Aug 11 2009, 02:03 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE(nycchef @ Aug 8 2009, 08:57 PM) |
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| tat2dphreak |
Aug 11 2009, 03:31 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(ME733 @ Aug 7 2009, 11:34 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Well we are helping Nycchef..( and probably a lot more people).....1) in YOUR experience ....the butterfly shaft bends..etc....WHAT is more likely to bend...1) the STEEL BUTTER-FLY SHAFT...OR 2) the BRONZE BUTTERFLY....and when it bends, is it ALWAYS BENT, whereby MORE AIRFLOW occurs in that carburator bore, cylinder???......and ....misalignment can also occur when the butterfly shaft BEARINGS ,(take a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) ) through age, useage,and accumulation of crud.....Take a hard look at the photograph of the carburator, NYCCHEF showed us....looks a little crusty to me with , a redish tone,from fuel, and a generall appearance of long term useage.....and note the rubber fuel line has NO clamp. ...AND....an AIR LEAK caused by a carburator base gasket,s... :stromberg... can and will contribute to these problem,s...remove and rebuild....EVEN IF ITS an ignition problem....then this engine really could run at it,s potential. :THE END... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) . yes, for the love of pete, that was my pic from when I was doing a mockup... it just happened to show the screws I was talking about in the post... there IS a clamp on the carb now. my webers are OLD, ancient, I get it, but they work perfectly and the gaskets on mine are fine... dismount. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| rmital |
Aug 11 2009, 03:51 PM
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Northeast optimist Group: Members Posts: 1,947 Joined: 12-December 05 From: Park Ridge, NJ Member No.: 5,268 |
QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ Aug 11 2009, 05:31 PM) QUOTE(ME733 @ Aug 7 2009, 11:34 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Well we are helping Nycchef..( and probably a lot more people).....1) in YOUR experience ....the butterfly shaft bends..etc....WHAT is more likely to bend...1) the STEEL BUTTER-FLY SHAFT...OR 2) the BRONZE BUTTERFLY....and when it bends, is it ALWAYS BENT, whereby MORE AIRFLOW occurs in that carburator bore, cylinder???......and ....misalignment can also occur when the butterfly shaft BEARINGS ,(take a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) ) through age, useage,and accumulation of crud.....Take a hard look at the photograph of the carburator, NYCCHEF showed us....looks a little crusty to me with , a redish tone,from fuel, and a generall appearance of long term useage.....and note the rubber fuel line has NO clamp. ...AND....an AIR LEAK caused by a carburator base gasket,s... :stromberg... can and will contribute to these problem,s...remove and rebuild....EVEN IF ITS an ignition problem....then this engine really could run at it,s potential. :THE END... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) . yes, for the love of pete, that was my pic from when I was doing a mockup... it just happened to show the screws I was talking about in the post... there IS a clamp on the carb now. my webers are OLD, ancient, I get it, but they work perfectly and the gaskets on mine are fine... dismount. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) who cares about your carbs...can't think about much else after glancing at your avatar... |
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| nycchef |
Aug 11 2009, 04:02 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
please lets let this thread fade away. sorry wayne did not mean to pull you into the fray (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| tat2dphreak |
Aug 11 2009, 04:06 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
it's no sweat, my carbs are just getting badmouthed, if theyhear it, they will get a complex, and god knows I can't afford therapy for my fuel system.
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