Saratoga Top came (mint cond.) |
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Saratoga Top came (mint cond.) |
dflesburg |
Sep 4 2009, 08:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
It is near perfect.
It is so good that I am able to id all the seals. I will be sourcing seal matches and when I have them all I will offer replacement seals to others. I will take and post pics this weekend. |
JeffBowlsby |
Apr 22 2010, 07:22 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Another photo of the S-top front latch mounted to the aluminum plate front lip. The side window top rubber here is a different profile than on mine, but conceptually the same. See how bulky it is? My sections were solid dense foam rubber, these are chambered. This shot also shows the square front gasket in the linear slot, with a concave leading edge to compress aginst the 914 windshield hoop. This profile was identical to one I bought aftermarket as a replacement. I am certain acceptable pieces of standard rubber profiles can be sourced and used, but they probably need to be bought in bulk.
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JeffBowlsby |
Apr 22 2010, 07:23 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
This is the latch and side window top rubber from my top. See the aluminum plate front lip mounted on stand-off cast acrylic blocks? See the two piece side window rubber and how tall it is? If I remember right, the lower rubber piece was a medium sized J-shaped profile with the longer leg dropping inside window into the cabin. The upper rubber piece was more of a wedge to fill in the space between the side curvature of the plex top and the lower J-ribber piece. I am pretty sure this side window top rubber was the original supplied with my top. This is also the only photo I have of my top that shows just the end of the front foam rubber weatherstripping between the aluminum plate and plex S-top nested against the side window rubber. The weatherstripping is simply glued to the plex with contact cement. This front rubber was about 1/2 in square in profile and had a concave leading edge to gasket against the 914 windshield hoop. This rubber was for keeping wind noise and rain out. The rear rubber profile I also replaced with a stock profile piece, I found both standard profiles at JC Whitney – they matched the originals exactly.
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JeffBowlsby |
Apr 22 2010, 07:24 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Here is the rear latch on my top. See the modded eyebolt? See the 2-piece stacked side window top rubber and how it slants up to mate with the Targa side edge rubber?
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JeffBowlsby |
Apr 22 2010, 07:26 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Looking up through my S-top, primarily to see the front aluminum plate mount and support blocks and the tall side window rubber
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Mikey914 |
Apr 22 2010, 11:11 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,670 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
I figured I'ld keep this quiet until it was a little further along, but I have started on these about a month ago. I've had a top that I've used to work out the new one. As usual I am making some changes that will make it a better product. I'm redesigning the seals for the sides to do a better job in keeping the water out. The attachment hardware is a higher quality and will have some adjustment to allow the owner to get the tension just right. This is important in the rear as the I bolt can separate from the top at the block. This one I have has been repaired in that area at least 2 times.
I've actually been looking at this one for quite some time and I'm collaborating with a few other individuals here to make a better product. It has kind of been hush hush as the start up costs on this product is pretty high, and I've been taking bits of it on at a time. I didn't want to post anything until I had more of it together, but I've just started on the main piece (the roof itself), and didn't want to drop the bomb until I had my first piece in hand. Pricing can vary depending on how things go and how everything comes together but,........................... Target price is $650, and it looks attainable. |
JeffBowlsby |
Apr 23 2010, 07:55 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
WOW! You are developing quite a catalog of 914 parts!
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Rod |
Apr 23 2010, 11:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England |
Well you know that I'd send a deposit for the first one Mikey (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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MikeInMunich |
Feb 21 2020, 02:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 19-November 13 From: Munich, Germany Member No.: 16,674 Region Association: None |
It is near perfect. It is so good that I am able to id all the seals. I will be sourcing seal matches and when I have them all I will offer replacement seals to others. I will take and post pics this weekend. email me when you got teh seals sorted out, i want to replace the seals on mine. thanks Hi Real Red! Not sure if you’re gunna see this, and an attempt to PM you failed. Box is Full. If you (or anyone else) happens to have a set of seals for a Saratoga top that you’d be willing to part with, please send me a PM! Thanks! M.i.M. |
ctc911ctc |
Feb 21 2020, 03:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 892 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
Wow, 10 year thread delta - perhaps a record?
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/party.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rock_band.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silver914.jpg) It is near perfect. It is so good that I am able to id all the seals. I will be sourcing seal matches and when I have them all I will offer replacement seals to others. I will take and post pics this weekend. email me when you got teh seals sorted out, i want to replace the seals on mine. thanks Hi Real Red! Not sure if you’re gunna see this, and an attempt to PM you failed. Box is Full. If you (or anyone else) happens to have a set of seals for a Saratoga top that you’d be willing to part with, please send me a PM! Thanks! M.i.M. |
dakotaewing |
Feb 21 2020, 10:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,160 Joined: 8-July 03 From: DeSoto, Tx Member No.: 897 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I also have a top that is in need of seals -
If there are any available, please contact me as well ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
Mikey914 |
Feb 21 2020, 11:29 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,670 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Ok,
I have an original and can make a better version on the seals needed. It is not as good for sealing as the WAS tops we made, but making a lower grade version of these roofs will allow for a mass production of the roors. If we could be in the $500 range with seals it could work. The big problem I ran into was the ones I made were VERY labor intensive. I have 3 ready to assemble but they will take a mi imum of 15 hrs each so putting this off has been too easy. I can form the materials easy enough, but the easier product will allow for me to support the old roofs. Ill dig mine out Sunday and play with this some. Nark |
Niklas |
Feb 22 2020, 02:38 AM
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Porsche 914 Sweden Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 20-June 09 From: Sweden - Skivarp Member No.: 10,488 Region Association: Scandinavia |
When you got got new seals i also want a set.
Niklas |
Mikey914 |
Feb 22 2020, 03:19 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,670 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
I will start the process this next week.
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Steve |
Feb 22 2020, 08:46 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,589 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
I would buy a top if you made them again!! @mikey914
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Mikey914 |
Feb 22 2020, 12:05 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,670 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
We will,
I think dumbing down the procesd will be the ley. Dont get me wrong. These will still tale time, but need to be set up for mass production Ill work more on this this next week and start a thread. Mark |
76-914 |
Feb 22 2020, 04:46 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,503 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
I'd be up for one of these. It would go perfectly with the new roll bar pads you'll be making. These are still in your plans to produce, aren't they? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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Mikey914 |
Feb 22 2020, 05:07 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,670 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Yes the roll bar pads are actually underway as soon as I'm satisfied with the product and I can get prices confirmed I will do a GB. My target for this is this summer.
Mark |
sb914 |
Feb 22 2020, 05:30 PM
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Surf Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,303 Joined: 25-November 12 From: Brookings,Oregon Member No.: 15,191 Region Association: Southern California |
I’d be in for one as well.you have any more “seconds” around ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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Mikey914 |
Feb 22 2020, 05:36 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,670 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
They got gobbled up pretty quick sorry.
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reharvey |
Feb 23 2020, 08:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 573 Joined: 16-July 08 From: N. E. Ohio Member No.: 9,308 Region Association: North East States |
Bought this Saratoga top many years ago for $50 at a sway meet. Made my own weatherstrip to replace the original stuff. Ray
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