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> Weber Carbs, Converting a '73 914-4 2L FI to Carbs
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post Sep 15 2009, 07:07 PM
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Hi!

I took the decision to convert my '73 914-4 2L FI to Carburetors. My MPS is broken, new ones are not available anymore and from what I read, rebuilds are not as good as original ones. Moreover, rebuilds are not cheap either, and other parts of my 914 fuel injection system are bound to fail in the near future. Many of these parts are no longer available or are very expensive. Hence my decision.

Now, my question: Which carbs? I think I will go with Weber carburetors. I know that some people prefer Dellorto, but they are hard to find and you cannot buy them new. Plus, they are a bit expensive. I am not racing with my car. I am mainly using it to go to the country side during the weekends. So, I am not looking for performance parts. I am just looking for something with which my car will run fine, and economically.

I was hesitating between these two models:

http://www.webercarbsdirect.com/ProductDet...97&CartID=2
http://www.webercarbsdirect.com/product_p/wk412.htm

But Webcarbsdirect does not ship to Canada, and am in Montréal. However, I found similar parts at Carbs Unlimited:

http://www.carburetion.com/weber/Dataresul...912%20,%20914-4
http://www.carburetion.com/weber/Dataresul...912%20,%20914-4

The K297 would be easier to maintain. However, someone told me that a 2L 914 won't run very well with them. That the gas will mix with the oil. I did not understand the whole explaination. I am not sure if this is true. The K1412 would give better performance, but they are a bit more trouble to adjust and have no choke.

Is any one using these carbs on a 2L 914?

Cheers!

JF

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post Sep 16 2009, 07:39 AM
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No good experiences have been had by many of my customers with Weber Carbs Direct.. I get questions (that I won't answer) all the time from people stating they have these new (cheap) carb sets that do not function correctly.

They can't get support where they bought them, so they **try** to get that support from us. I support what I sell extensively, but I refuse to support others products. (that were generally bought based on price only, from a comapnay that doesn't even understand the engine they are fitted to.)

The ICT has never impressed me.. I dislike them most because of their main jet locations being inside the carb float bowl, which makes a jet change really suck. They also do not give the type of tuning response that I look for, due to this they are more difficult to tune than a set of dual IDF style carbs.

There is NO MORE HORRIBLE means of induction for the Type 4 engine than that of a single 2 barrel progressive carb!! They always run rich due to the lack of carb heat coupled to their long runners that build fuel droplets as the fuel falls from suspension before it inters the intake port in the head... They are cold blooded as hell, un-tunable, un-responsive and overall they just plain suck! They are THE hardest carburetor to tune and unfortunately many of the buyers of them **think** that because its a single it will be easier to tune! WRONG!!

Buy a set of old school Italian or Spanish Weber IDFs and send them to Art at ACE... Or just buy a set of properly set up HPMX Empi carbs that have the upgraded linkage, have been pre-ran, inspected and are set up just for your engine.

That doesn't mean looking for the cheapest price.

"THE BITTERNESS OF POOR QUALITY REMAINS LONG AFTER THE SWEETNESS OF LOW PRICE IS FORGOTTEN"
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velum   Weber Carbs   Sep 15 2009, 07:07 PM
degreeoff   I used the 34 itc on my 1.7 for years...good setup...   Sep 15 2009, 07:30 PM
jmill   If the only choice was between the two I'd go ...   Sep 15 2009, 10:11 PM
RohJay   I use Weber 40's on my 1.8. You might be cheat...   Sep 15 2009, 10:46 PM
pilothyer   One of my cars has a 2.0 with a pair of 34 ICT car...   Sep 16 2009, 02:13 AM
craig downs   Stay clear from buying new Webers as they are junk...   Sep 16 2009, 03:12 AM
BarberDave   :trophy: I am not going to make any friends wi...   Sep 16 2009, 06:34 AM
r_towle   Sorry to disagree BarberDave, but the 1.8 in Europ...   Sep 16 2009, 06:43 AM
Jake Raby   No good experiences have been had by many of my cu...   Sep 16 2009, 07:39 AM
904svo   No good experiences have been had by many of my c...   Sep 16 2009, 08:34 AM
velum   Some of you are suggesting I should simply keep my...   Sep 16 2009, 04:28 PM
Rand   Some of you are suggesting I should simply keep m...   Sep 16 2009, 11:19 PM
Rav914   Buy a set of old school Italian or Spanish Weber ...   Sep 16 2009, 02:02 PM
Rand   If I were in your shoes I would just buy a used MP...   Sep 16 2009, 02:15 PM
zymurgist   If I were in your shoes I would just buy a used M...   Sep 16 2009, 04:26 PM
BarberDave   :trophy: There is a set of Italian 40's on ...   Sep 16 2009, 03:44 PM
Cupomeat   Perhaps I missed it, but I don't see any discu...   Sep 16 2009, 03:48 PM
tat2dphreak   if it was me, I'd look at the one's Jake s...   Sep 16 2009, 03:49 PM
zymurgist   From personal experience: - the deceleration valv...   Sep 16 2009, 04:51 PM
9146986   I agree 100% with Jake. I'd go with dual ID...   Sep 16 2009, 06:39 PM
jmill   Correct me if I'm wrong here. Which I have a ...   Sep 16 2009, 07:04 PM
Joe Owensby   I am planning on putting this in the classifieds, ...   Sep 16 2009, 08:47 PM
Jake Raby   Thats because this engine is pretty much all we d...   Sep 16 2009, 09:26 PM
velum   Thats because this engine is pretty much all we d...   Sep 17 2009, 07:39 AM
9146986   He's talking about the single progressive that...   Sep 17 2009, 08:00 AM
velum   He's talking about the single progressive tha...   Sep 17 2009, 08:22 AM
Jake Raby   The single carb is a totally different beast compa...   Sep 17 2009, 10:55 AM
flipb   I just bought my first 914 and it's got the mu...   Sep 17 2009, 11:49 AM
Cevan   I just bought my first 914 and it's got the m...   Sep 17 2009, 07:03 PM
9146986   I've always wondered about the dual 2bbl progr...   Sep 17 2009, 12:47 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   we have a new 037 on the shelf if you want to purc...   Sep 17 2009, 02:27 PM


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