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Jake Raby |
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Engine Surgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
This is a sneak peek of the new cable linkage system that we have been working to complete for quite a while now.. Available (SOON!) for carburetors or our "Extrudabody" EFI throttle bodies.
![]() These pics are of the first fitment of the new arrangement onto a pair of EMPI HPMX carbs on our display fixture. There are several changes necessary, but for a first mock up and fitment the system worked better than we'd imagine. The final kit will have all anodized parts, full hardware and etc included along with an installation DVD produced by yours truly. There have been efforts by others to complete a system like this,(some with great results) but to date nothing has been universally applicable or commercially available using this method of actuation and synchronization. There has also not been an attempt made to replace the OEM throttle cable all the way to the throttle pedal. The difference in this system is that the permanently lubricated sheathed cables will replace the ENTIRE throttle cable arrangement all the way to the pedal. This will be accomplished with a system thats comprised of one primary cable from the pedal to an intermediate link housing that will tie both cables together. The high quality, multi-role intermediate link will also have the adjustment and return spring for the arrangement in a combined unit. The intermediate link will reside above the transaxle and will triple as a quick disconnection point should the service of the engine/ carbs need to be carried out. This intermediate link is one bad ass, yet VERY SIMPLE part! The secondary cable couples to the primary cable via the intermediate link then travels around a billet cam on the "lead" carburetor/ throttle body. This cable then continues through another sheathed cable to the "slave" throttle body/ Carburetor. The benefits of the cable system are numerous.. I personally like the lightweight yet very robust construction coupled to the fact that it omits the factory throttle cable and replaces it all with new much stronger parts. It's also easy to custom tailor pedal feel and throttle actuation with adjustments made to the cams and cable tensions. I have been "over" Hex bar linkage systems and their inherent issues for years.. Bellcrank systems have proven to be expensive and can be problematic with engines that have greater expansion levels as their synchronization is effected as the engine "grows". With this system is doesn't matter how much the engine expands the cables retain their tension. This is the smoothest and most accurate means of carburetor actuation I have experienced to date. Here are some features: -Universally applicable for all Weber IDF/ EMPI HPMX and Dellorto DRLA applications for the Type 1, Type 4 or Porsche 356 engine!! The same kit can fit all these different engines! The same kit can also fir a Type 3 or Type 4 engine using these carburetors with the stock pancake cooling system. -With very slight changes this same kit can actuate a set of 48 IDAs on any of the above engines as well. -High quality billet throttle cams allow for easy adjustment of the system for various pedal arrangements -The entire stock throttle cable is removed and replaced with the "accu-link" components -The intermediate link allows for ease of adjustment, a quick disconnection point, coupling of the primary and secondary cables and a redundant throttle return spring all in one self contained, snap together housing. - The sheathed cables are adjustable in 7 different locations for ease of tuning the system to the vehicle, driver and carburetors. -Engine width and expansion will not alter carburetor/ throttle body actuation or synchronization at all. - Very light carb return springs are able to be used due to the ease of actuation and the slippery sheathed cables. This allows for a nice pedal feel without giving up snappy throttle action -Carburetor throttle shaft bearings/ bushings will see reduced loads and will live longer. - No mechanical parts to wear out like ball sockets and heim joints/ spherical bearings. When the cables begin to stretch the adjustment can be made to them in 7 different places throught the arrangement. Spare cables can be sold for pennies to keep in the glove box.. - No heavy mechanical linkages to attach to the throttle shafts and transmit harmonics to the throttle shafts, thus chattering the accelerator pumps making them dribble fuel down the intakes.. This is a tuning issue that many people fight and do not even realize it. - Its different! As different as a DTM cooling system or a big bore Type 4! -Its also going to be very cost effective with all parts (except the throttle intermediate link) made in the USA including the cables, billet throttle cams and etc. The throttle intermediate link is made in Germany and has been proven in the 24 hours of Le Man as recently as this past June :-) And as of today the Patent pending processes have been initiated! ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by Jake Raby: Oct 1 2009, 11:19 AM |
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This is certainly not what I expected down here. ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 849 Joined: 21-May 09 From: Bodymore Murderland Member No.: 10,389 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
That stainless braid looks so badass and gangster as well.
It screams business and function. Wait the entire actual steel internal cable is coated with something as well? So this pretty much beats a terry cable up as well. I was not terribly impressed with my terry cable, it actually is not as slippery as a gemo with lube was until I broke the gemo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) My theory for that was the lack of plastic sheathing and the little bit of play in the cable allows it to touch the inside of the cable tube. |
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From Wreck to Rockin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States ![]() ![]() |
I want one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) I am still puzzling over my hex bar set up. John |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 698 Joined: 29-December 08 From: Fredericksburg VA Member No.: 9,880 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
Any ideas on cost yet? I would seriously consider it, if its cost effective.
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Engine Surgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
These are non compressable sheaths.. The cable is very slick and coated.
The throttle action is very smooth and light even with finger actuation.. I first was exposed to this set up with our Boxster throttle bodies and an adaptation to the aircooled set up was a natural evolution :-) Cost?? Nope, no idea yet- I don't worry about cost until it works. Believe it or not it'll be cost effective, especially because this same set up can be used for Type 1, Type 4 and 356 engines in any car as a single arrangement.. That means higher volumes and standardized parts. This post has been edited by Jake Raby: Oct 1 2009, 11:50 AM |
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 126,526 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None ![]() |
Seems way too simple.
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This is certainly not what I expected down here. ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 849 Joined: 21-May 09 From: Bodymore Murderland Member No.: 10,389 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
These are non compressable sheaths.. The cable is very slick and coated. The throttle action is very smooth and light even with finger actuation.. I first was exposed to this set up with our Boxster throttle bodies and an adaptation to the aircooled set up was a natural evolution :-) Cost?? Nope, no idea yet- I don't worry about cost until it works. Believe it or not it'll be cost effective, especially because this same set up can be used for Type 1, Type 4 and 356 engines in any car as a single arrangement.. That means higher volumes and standardized parts. This totally rules. Sounds like the carb guys have a solution that ends any linkage issues finally. I am probably going to move to this once the time comes as well if I don't end up with some standalone e-gas solution. Speaking of Jake, any word on your standalone e-gas drive by wire stuff for type IV's? Megasquirt is only slightly better than l-jet or any other system. |
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Engine Surgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
QUOTE Speaking of Jake, any word on your standalone e-gas drive by wire stuff for type IV's? The ECU is in my 912E now... I need to download a new software package before I test it further as now they've tweaked the adaptive resolution and have added the ability to tune via bluetooth. I'll be using it along with this linkage and the extrudabody throttle bodies in our double cab.. |
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I. I. R. C. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,814 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Great work Jake! This is long overdue.
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stoya, stoya, stoya ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() ![]() |
this looks great, Jake! be sure and let us know when they are available!
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jmill |
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Green Hornet ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() |
I like it. Beats the heck out of anything I've seen. The only question I have is where is the idle stop?
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Jake Raby |
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Engine Surgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
Throttle idle stop is on the opposite side of the carburetor....
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
looks like my dirtbike set-up ! cool !
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,811 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 10,752 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
I might wait to convert my 2.0 from single Weber progressive until this kit is available.
Hear that, Jake? No pressure, but the sooner you get this kit available, the sooner another single-carb gets demolished. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
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Engine Surgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
Can **I** demolish the single carb??
LOL.. I got a new Saiga 12 and I am dying for a to end the life of a progressive! |
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One Lap of America in a 914! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,266 Joined: 25-May 08 From: Syracuse, NY Member No.: 9,101 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Why must you continue to taunt me with products I need... err, want? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
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Jake Raby |
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Engine Surgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
Why must you continue to taunt me with products I need... err, want? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) To stimulate the economy! |
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Long term tinkerer... ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 ![]() |
Could this work on other throttle body setups as well? TWM for example?
-Josh2 |
Jake Raby |
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Engine Surgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
With mods I am sure it could...
The TWMs have really gone down hill lately though. |
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Barberdave ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,605 Joined: 12-January 03 From: Wauseon Ohio Member No.: 135 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() |
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Jake : We expect nothing but the " Best" from you. And you have delivered again. Next thing you will do is a billet type 4 ,that you personally will carve out of a chunk of Alum. Just keep getting better. Dave (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) |
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