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would it look gay?, boxster style engine vents |
my15window |
Apr 2 2003, 07:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 61 Joined: 23-March 03 From: fort collins Co. Member No.: 465 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) how come nobody puts side vents in their car?? Is that like putting on a whale tail? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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vortrex |
Apr 2 2003, 07:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,687 Joined: 24-December 02 From: SF, CA Member No.: 4 Region Association: None |
yes it is.
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Bruce Allert |
Apr 2 2003, 07:53 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I've seen the side vents used and I like them. Other than one more place for dust & dirt to collect, if routed to a peticular place I think they'd serve a purpose for cooling.
I dunno (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) it just seems logical (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) bruce |
EdwardBlume |
Apr 2 2003, 07:54 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
What do you need side vents for when you can can take the top off (dumb ass remark).
Or let the rust holes do the work (dummer). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) |
Bleyseng |
Apr 2 2003, 07:55 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If its a intake opening for a turbo, its waay cool. For anyother reason, ricer.....baaad.
Geoff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
914werke |
Apr 2 2003, 08:18 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 9,998 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Screw that! If you can direct cooler dense air directly into your motor instead of sucking hot air from around the engine compartment what do you get ... MORE POWER! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif)
I recall seeing an artical way in the past in EC (or perhaps it was still VW& Porsche) of a 914 drop top conversion that had side vents. They extended out the mold of the door handle scallop until it ended in an elipse/hole into the engine bay. Painted that area black and it looked ...factory! Figure in the oem airbox fitted with an additional reversed intake horn w/ hose to those vents ...WALA! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Im going to see if I can come up with that issue. If I can find it Ill post the pics. Rich |
SirAndy |
Apr 2 2003, 08:59 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,604 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
would be difficult for a six tho. on both sides at least.
unless you relocate the oil-tank ... i've seen pictures too ... dunno if i like em much ... |
Bleyseng |
Apr 2 2003, 10:01 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Chuck Davis did a study on this a few years ago. It helped alittle bit but was nothing earthshaking. I'd have to look up his website if you want it.
Taking the raincover off lowered the engine air temp by 10 degrees. That one I have tried and it does make a difference in oil temps in the summer by 10 degrees. Take off the f***ing air cleaner assemby to get 1-2hp if you want cheap hp. Geoff |
914werke |
Apr 2 2003, 10:30 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 9,998 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Na! I perfer not to injest grit & bugs into my engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
& as you and I Goeff, live in the land of Single Mom's and RUST, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) The rain tray stays on. I just think this is one area of the 14's design that wasnt thought through. If you look at contemporary mid-engine cars (MR2, Bosxter ect), they all have cool air intakes on thier sides. As for additional performance, Sportbikes have been using presureized air-boxes and ram air ducting for years ..with great success! Rich |
Hawktel |
Apr 2 2003, 10:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: 2-April 03 From: Ogden Utah Member No.: 506 |
THere was a guy who had a 914 with a V6 buick engine in it.
He'd cut in scoops on the side of the machine, even though it had GT flares, IIRC. He's set up one side to be the intake for Plant, and the other to provide aditional cooling, and to balance the body work, much like the Boxster. Also I recall another person discussing the feasability of using a small 1.8 turbo plant from a VW. They's thought to hang 2 radiators on the side of the engine bay using scoops to provide air to the radiators. I don't know if it would work personally, but if I had a 914 to convert to a water pumper, its what I would consider. Ed Hawktel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
914werke |
Apr 2 2003, 10:41 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 9,998 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Well I happen to have a 0 mi. Buick V6 sitting in my garage if someone is interested (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
for those "renegades" out there. CHEAP! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) Rich |
Bleyseng |
Apr 2 2003, 10:48 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
That's Phil Haun's car you're talking about. He lives in Oak Harbor up north. Very nice car as I have seen it several times, never rode in it thou.
I DO take the raintray out about June 1st as it does help. I think the Porsche never thought that they were going to have a 100hp 4 cyl in the car and the six has a much better fan setup so the design works atleast until you modify it. Damn Rich, you are gettin cranky! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Geoff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
Mike D. |
Apr 2 2003, 11:21 PM
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OK, It runs now, and pretty good too! Group: Members Posts: 1,445 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Santa Clarita, Ca Member No.: 85 Region Association: None |
Phil's car has the side vent from Toyota MR2. you can pick one up at the local pick-a-part. I picked one once...Then sold it at a swap when I decided it was too much for a car with only 4 cylinders.
Oh well... Mike D. |
SirAndy |
Apr 2 2003, 11:48 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,604 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Mike D. @ Apr 2 2003, 09:21 PM) Phil's car has the side vent from Toyota MR2. yeah, i saw a pic of a 914 with the MR2 vent. just on one side. a blue car if i recall right. looked kinda odd. but, if it works ... now someone should make a nice side scoop out of F/G, ala ferrari 328. or, if you want to cheap out, cut out rear vents from a VW-Bus (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
Curvie Roadlover |
Apr 3 2003, 05:59 AM
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Two trunks are better than one! Group: Members Posts: 2,025 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Southeast Michigan Member No.: 42 |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 2 2003, 09:48 PM) [QUOTE=Mike D. or, if you want to cheap out, cut out rear vents from a VW-Bus (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) The engine would probably feel most comfortable with these. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Lawrence |
Apr 3 2003, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,661 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 244 Region Association: None |
Charlie Davis has a couple of naca-type ducts on his car. One on the sail panel to duct air into the engine. Also, on the rocker, to do the same, I believe.
-Rusty |
Dave_Darling |
Apr 3 2003, 12:18 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The rocker one is a NACA duct; the sail-panel one is a fiberglass scoop.
http://members.rennlist.com/chuxter/#TempTests --DD |
r_towle |
Apr 3 2003, 05:44 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,560 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Does anyone have pics of these scoops built into the fenders?
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seanery |
Apr 3 2003, 08:18 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
There's a picture of a blue flared (not GT) car that has naca ducts in the rear quarters somewhere in the reader's ride link.
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SirAndy |
Apr 3 2003, 08:51 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,604 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
ok, i just went and had a look at the MR2 vents (on a MR2). i doubt they would be very beneficial on a 914. they mount flat, they're NOT scoops unless you would mount them in a angle, like 45+ degrees or so. if you mount them flat, they would not push air into the engine compartment. in fact, the air going by would create a under-pressure and suck air out of the engine-comp! even if you run a closed tube from the vent to the air intake, you'd still have the engine sucking against the under-pressure on the outside. not good. now, if someone had a additional scoop-like cover that would go over the vent on the outside, that would work. and probably look pretty stupid ...
just my 2 cents, Andy |
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