DNHunt
Oct 17 2009, 11:29 AM
This is an idea I borrowed from Clay and a new spin I added to it. I hate adjusting shift forks and I saw Clay had cut a window in an old transmission case. Most of us are combining the best parts from a couple of boxes or more so there should be extra cases. The window worked great and is easier than the jig that is available. It is more secure and the forks move less. On a side shifter you can install a shift console and test it and watch for interferences.
I added a piece of wood that fit snugly into the slots of the shift rods so they stayed aligned while I tighten the shift forks.
Dave
DNHunt
Oct 17 2009, 11:42 AM
I was planning on using a case I picked up but, it had been apart once at least and the shift console had been put together carelessly so, I was a little wary of the rest of it. It hadn't been run much so there were some good parts including a new steel caged bearing in the intermediate plate for the drive shaft. After I got the gear stack together I decided to trial fit it into the case and check the pinion depth. It was more difficult to turn than I thought it should be and it was noisy turning by hand. So, I put some white grease on the ring gear and tried it again. Here are pictures of the contact areas.
Driver side
Click to view attachmentCoast side
Click to view attachmentI thought tis was to much copntact and probly was the cause of what I felt and heard. So I swapped the good bearing and the dive shaft onto the intermediate plate that came with transmission installed at the factory in my car. I used it's pinion shaft and the same thickness gaskets and trial fit it. It turns much better and is quiet. I'll do a print with the white grease later.
Dave
Dr Evil
Oct 17 2009, 05:14 PM
Interesting. I wouldnt do that, so I am curious how it all turns out
Dave the pioneer.
With the window method, I find that your window is restrictive in its views. I like to adjust mine from several angles (unless it is ericread's, then I just say screw it
). I have a case that has all extra material removed.....I like the jig
Its cool for shows, though.
DNHunt
Oct 17 2009, 05:28 PM
Here are the marks from the other case; not much different.
Drive
Click to view attachmentcoast
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ericread
Oct 17 2009, 05:33 PM
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Oct 17 2009, 04:14 PM)
I like to adjust mine from several angles (unless it is ericread's, then I just say screw it
).
Eric
Dr Evil
Oct 17 2009, 05:37 PM
Its hard to read in the pics. To me they all look too deep.
DNHunt
Oct 17 2009, 07:12 PM
Mike
I kind of thought the same thing. What I can say is the contact never makes it all the way to the edge of the heel and toe. I am very used to reading contact patterns in this type of media as we use a concoction of Crisco and talc to shown contact areas in the mouth. In reading a print you will see the area of greatest pressure wiped clean and then a highlighted ring followed by roughly concentric rings. Motion tends to smear these outside rings as it has here. However, generally, the point where contact stops is where white pigment is first seen. I believe in this case the contacts are not as large as they appear on the pictures but. they are still larger than the diagrams I have seen. I'm going to run it and see what happens.
Dave
Mark Henry
Oct 17 2009, 08:07 PM
Paint the gears with dykem blue and use (carefully) a fine lapping compound, but you might need to spin it faster.
I`m building a couple of bug trans jigs like the one you have there....the 901 jig is only $30 though.
J P Stein
Oct 17 2009, 08:33 PM
So, how much backlash ya got?
Did you check bearing pre load?
J P Stein
Oct 18 2009, 12:34 PM
FYI
DNHunt
Oct 18 2009, 06:39 PM
My measurements .006 preload and I measured 24 inlbs to turn it. That is right at the smallest value my 1/4 torque wrench will read. It was repeatable but, I would consider it an estimate.
The backlash was .008. The manual call out .005-007 so it's just outside. It is quiet however. We see how long it lasts.
Don't try to use a pinion shaft expansion bolt out of a 902/02 transmission. The pinion that drives the speedometer is larger in diameter and it will bind the pinion up.
Dave
Dr Evil
Oct 18 2009, 10:31 PM
Dave you are a stud, applying dental knowledge to transmission repair
I look forward to seeing how this works.
DNHunt
Oct 19 2009, 07:58 AM
That's not such a big jump, gears have teeth.
Dr Evil
Oct 19 2009, 09:28 AM
Richard Casto
Oct 20 2009, 09:02 AM
Dave,
You should try some gear marking compound. It's designed specifically for what you are trying to do. Probably much easier to read the pattern using it vs. lithium grease. It's also cheap.
http://paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageA...p;ProdID=187262Richard
Katmanken
Feb 12 2010, 05:48 PM
Dave,
How is the ring and pinion setting working out?
Found this website on setting up a ring and pinion and in reading the contact patterns..
http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_catalog/ri...structions.htmlKen
DNHunt
Feb 12 2010, 06:36 PM
It's working fine.
I haven't driven it a lot with winter here but, so far so good.
Dr Evil
Feb 12 2010, 08:24 PM
If it is not whining or grinding right away, you are on it and need not worry
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