QUOTE(cgnj @ Mar 20 2004, 05:31 AM)
Hi,
I will start by saying I wouldn't buy this motor. I have 2.0 cores and the experience to build them.
Rebuild a 2 liter motor lately? Pay to have it done? Buy a known good core 2.0 motor lately. Even seen one? Buy a rebuild motor from 0 miles from someone you trust? Price it without a core?
I think one problem is that many of us have been at this for a long time. Over the course of years, we make really good scores on cars or parts. You always remember them and somehow that sets the market for you forever. Four years ago, I bought 3 parts cars, two of them 2.0's, all runners for less than a grand. I don't see those anymore. I'm not shilling my stuff, but the 2.0 stuff I'm selling is my excess. I'm hanging on to enough to support my cars for the forseeable future. Why? There isn't as much out there.
Carlos
OK....so YOU wouldn't buy this motor and YOU have the experience to build one. So do I. "I" like Gint and a few others on this board are going to sixes or are staying with sixes....
But the difference is...not everyone on this board does. A lot of the listers have 1.7 and 1.8 motors. Nothing REALLY wrong with the motors, beyond that they are mostly tired and in a lot cases in need of a rebuild......hell, a lot of the 2.0s can also say the same,,,,,,,,,,
Unless you are a concour weenie, I doubt there are many out there that would not like more power.
Let's do the math......you DON"t have a 2.0 for a core....
say 800 to buy a tired 2.0.....of course we all know they go for more than that.....try 1500 in a lot cases....
cams....the FI cams aren't very agressive....300ish for a Crane or Web cam....oh geez, what about lifters....add another 150ish
OK...dizzy....050, 100 bucks when you can find them....
Carbs, let's go 44s.....900 includes manifolds and linkage
OK....wanna go larger displacement? Or even JUST replace the tied P&Cs??
NPR...what 600? JE or Keith Black 900? Wanna REALLY bend over? Try some Nickies????
Then let's talk bearings, valve guides, VALVES, machine work....oh shit....needs a clutch, pressure plate and flywheel work and lightening?????
Ah crap it needs pushrods tubes, an oil cooler sandwhich, a tuna can....etc, blah, blah....
Let's see, I wanna pretty engine bay...OK powder coat the tin...
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Add it all up, give a warranty and THEN tell me that $4500 is out of line.....
It's a deal....no one wants to admit it....