Scott S
Jan 29 2010, 01:16 PM
Hi All -
I have been watching the usual places for a set of weber intakes for my conversion. I need the 36mm ports on the engine side (2.7l). Everything I find are 32mm. Are the 36's rare? I know I have read about some having the smaller ones machined, but at that point, wont the cost be similar to just buying some PMO's?
Would love your thoughts - thanks.
Scott S
SLITS
Jan 29 2010, 02:47 PM
Port matching can be done with a Dumor (die grinder).
If you are thinking about enlarging the entire manifold that would be another story, but it has been done with the same tool. Only problems are having a spare one you can cut cross section to see how much metal you have to work with and maintaining equal thickness around the bore.
J P Stein
Jan 29 2010, 07:36 PM
Pretty damn rare. AFAIK, those manifolds came only on the 67-68 911S.
The 32s are easy to port out, tho, as Slits said. I did some then didn't use them. They are magnesium and it goes quickly.
burton73
Jan 29 2010, 09:23 PM
Hi Scott,
This may be the same part that is in my car from the 68s engine. I cleaned my set up and glass bead blasted them. I found this ad with the part number on Google. A set had sold on the bird board for $175 not to far back.
Bob
Porsche 911 Vergaser Ansaugbrücke, Saugrohr 40 mm
Ebay ITEM # 370092724476
Nähe Paderborn, Deutschland
Versand nach: Deutschland
http://cgi.ebay.de/Porsche-911-Vergaser-An...=item562b3ed0fcScott,
OLD POST My part number is 901.108.321.OR it was from an early S on my 2.5 68S
The size is 41mm over 38mm on a low dollar bullet loading plastic gauge.
sixnotfour
Jan 29 2010, 09:36 PM
36mm 2.7 ports have an notch for the injector, PMO manifolds are shaped to cover the divet in an otherwise round 36mm port.
If you use early manifolds be sure to at least get the PMO black plastic spacers and gaskets for the 2.7 S port to prevent an air leak.
stole some pics from the bird
sww914
Jan 30 2010, 01:06 AM
I's not hard to match port the manifolds to 36mm. I did a set recently, it took me a couple hours. The biggest mistake one could make is to try to enlarge the whole thing. If you just match port it you'll be OK and not ruin the flow. You must maintain a smooth shape but don't polish them, not that kind of smooth. I think the experts say to finish with 80 grit but magnesium is soft so I finish it with 100 or 120 to have scratches on the sides similar to 80 grit on aluminum.
J P Stein
Jan 30 2010, 07:46 AM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 29 2010, 07:36 PM)
36mm 2.7 ports have an notch for the injector, PMO manifolds are shaped to cover the divet in an otherwise round 36mm port.
If you use early manifolds be sure to at least get the PMO black plastic spacers and gaskets for the 2.7 S port to prevent an air leak.
stole some pics from the bird
Which is why I didn't use the 32s.
I'm told that using just the plastic insulator doesn't always work out well.
sixnotfour
Jan 30 2010, 10:51 AM
QUOTE
Which is why I didn't use the 32s.
I'm told that using just the plastic insulator doesn't always work out well.
true but its worse without them.
Scott S
Jan 30 2010, 10:55 AM
I spoke to PMO yesterday - they were very helpful (even gave me jet reccommendations for our crazy altitude). I would rather be safe that sorry - I have heard of the air leak problem - so I will be using their manifolds with the insulators. While the more expensive, it is way less expensive than doing it twice. That I cant afford.
Thanks All -
Scott S
sixnotfour
Jan 30 2010, 11:20 AM
just for the record;
greasy factory manifold -Left
semi clean 2.7 head- Right
J P Stein
Jan 30 2010, 02:01 PM
I hear/see you, but.....
6 chances for a vacuum leak, whether when you first fire it up or a few years later, doesn't fit in my play book. Getting the tune right is enough of a stinker (particularly for a first timer....BTDT). Who needs that possibility in the works?
sixnotfour
Jan 30 2010, 02:20 PM
We are in agreement, who are you arguing with ? I am showing the air leak.
QUOTE
I spoke to PMO yesterday - they were very helpful (even gave me jet reccommendations for our crazy altitude). I would rather be safe that sorry - I have heard of the air leak problem - so I will be using their manifolds with the insulators. While the more expensive, it is way less expensive than doing it twice. That I cant afford.
Thanks All -
Scott S
JP you dont even own a 914
burton73
Jan 30 2010, 03:41 PM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 30 2010, 12:20 PM)
We are in agreement, who are you arguing with ? I am showing the air leak.
QUOTE
I spoke to PMO yesterday - they were very helpful (even gave me jet reccommendations for our crazy altitude). I would rather be safe that sorry - I have heard of the air leak problem - so I will be using their manifolds with the insulators. While the more expensive, it is way less expensive than doing it twice. That I cant afford.
Thanks All -
Scott S
JP you dont even own a 914
I am not at work where the fresh 76 2.7 S heads are. I will take a picture of them on Monday and post it so you can look over my now fresh glass beaded intakes and please give me advance advice on the fit.
Bob
sixnotfour
Jan 30 2010, 06:26 PM
youre in the same boat as the greasy parts. pmo is the best way to go,
plus they are a bit taller.or they make a tall manifold
Or
take a chance with the plastic spacers
Or
have the divets welded up making a round port so you can use your early S manifolds.
J P Stein
Jan 31 2010, 10:42 AM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 30 2010, 12:20 PM)
JP you dont even own a 914
True, but when I did, it ran....well, every summer.
When is that GT gonna come out of the closet?
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