bandjoey
Feb 2 2010, 07:39 PM
What we all need lots of...
zymurgist
Feb 2 2010, 07:50 PM
Sure wish they had the kind where you put pins through the base to retain the saddles, though.
codices
Feb 2 2010, 08:50 PM
This type can be scary--as Gint will testify. Be very careful if you buy them. A pin is the key to safety with stands along with making sure they are flat on the floor.
Dave
bandjoey
Feb 2 2010, 11:26 PM
Be sure they're locked in place and them bungie the handle to the base, and keep a floor jack snug under the long. Havne't seen any with pins outside of the high priced tool shops.
Gint...is this what happened to you..was it under buttercup? All OK now?
Gint
Feb 3 2010, 07:43 AM
QUOTE(bandjoey @ Feb 2 2010, 10:26 PM)
Gint...is this what happened to you..was it under buttercup? All OK now?
It had nothing to do with buttercup. 3 years ago this April Fool's. What a coincidence...
Yeah, I have plenty of those jackstands. They get used to hold up axle assemblies and such, but I'll never get under anything they're holding up. Only pinned jackstands for me.
zymurgist
Feb 3 2010, 08:09 AM
I'm still using mine, but I place spare wheels (w/mounted tires) on their sides under the car, in the event that one of these jackstands should fail.
smontanaro
Feb 7 2010, 07:33 AM
Why are these style stands even made anymore? Back in the day I had a set of pinned jackstands, but now I have these. Wouldn't pinned be simpler/cheaper to make anyway?
smontanaro
Feb 7 2010, 09:09 AM
QUOTE(esses62 @ Feb 7 2010, 08:32 AM)
Anyone have a picture of the correct pinned jackstands? Those chinese ones are the only ones that I have seen sold at my FLAPS
It does appear the entire jack stand universe has been overrun with ratchet-style jack stands having no lock mechanism. If I understand correctly, it's not that the various elements are weak. It's that the ratchet mechanism can be disengaged if something bumps the handle. Is that right?
Here are a couple from a Google images search for "jack stands":
http://www.usatoolwarehouse.com/Merchant2/...01/otc-1582.gifhttp://www.asedeals.com/JackStands2Jpg.jpghttp://www.dmstools.com/tn/TN-OME-32225.jpgThis one looks to be the best of both worlds:
http://www.northerntool.com/images/product...s/144853_lg.jpgthough it doesn't seem that the pin goes through the post. It looks like it's a lock mechanism for the ratchet.
S
Also - came across this patent:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4856747.pdfLast edit, I promise... Google for "pin style jack stands". It would appear they are only available nowadays for heavy duty applications (10-ton or greater).
campbellcj
Feb 7 2010, 06:13 PM
I have these ones from AC Hydraulic. They are fantastic and I would never risk my life or my car to anything of inferior design or construction. Pelican Parts used to carry them but not sure anymore.
http://www.ac-hydraulic.com/Default.asp?mo...st&catid=51
patssle
Feb 7 2010, 08:14 PM
I just can't trust any jackstand by itself - who knows what excellent quality control measures went into its manufacturing....in China.
bandjoey
Feb 7 2010, 09:46 PM
Like I said. bungie the handle down and put a jack or wheels under the pan for a backup. These are heavy duty and I've shaken the car to test them and they hold, but I still dont' get under the car without backup. I don't think they will slip down but the handle is the place to accidentally kick or drop something against, and then WAM!
Cheapsnake
Feb 9 2010, 07:31 PM
See that void under the racheted extender? A piece of 2x4 fits neatly through there and prevents any accidental release - guaranteed.
Tom
raw1298
Feb 9 2010, 08:18 PM
I stack the wheels under the car. I didn't worry about it until I read about Gint. Now I play it safe!
smontanaro
Feb 9 2010, 08:40 PM
I'm sure folks here are all aware of the hazards. I worry more about the thousands of unsuspecting folks who are unaware of the danger. I'd guess they are about as dangerous as Toyotas...
S
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