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jeremiah98125
So I took my 1.7 out on it's maiden voyage today and having some issues with the brakes.. They worked okay for the first 10 miles, good pressure at the pedal but didn't really slow the car down all that great. Then all of a sudden I totally lost pressure and had to pump them about 5 or 6 times to regain the pressure. Kind of scary here in the city.. So I headed home pumping the brakes a bunch before every stop. As I started pulling into the yard the pressure came back and the felt fine again. And sitting in the yard they feel okay again.. It kind of seemed like a hose burst or something but I don't see any fluid dripping on ground and the level in the master cylinder hasn't dropped any. Any idea what happened and how to fix em? The last service report which was 1,000 miles & 12 years ago said "free up calipers, replace pads, repack bearings". Also, manual says use "J1703" brake fluid, what is that? thanks!!
rick 918-S
Master cylinder died. That would be my guess.
yeahmag
Agreed. Without any external leak your master cylinder is shot. Replace it before you drive it again.
dr914@autoatlanta.com


this is an easy one. The flex lines are clogged or a caliper piston is sticking causing the brakes to stick and boil the fluid losing pressure. As soon as the fluid cools the pedal is back to normal. Could also be a sticking brake pedal but I am sure that you checked that. Master cylinder is probably ok, and certainly not causing the problem you are experiencing.
yeahmag
Interesting take on that... I like it.
Dr. Roger
MC for sure.

Also the pads are probably hardened to the point of losing their friction coefficient. Happened to me with similar time/mileage circumstances.

Just glad you didn't die. =)
yeahmag
Oh yeah... Replacing my old pads made a HUGE difference. You had to stand on the brakes to get the car to stop.
jeremiah98125
Thanks for the replies. Sounds like I'm gonna be checking out the whole brake system next week.. Any recommendations on what brake parts commonly need replacing? I like to have the new parts before I get into a job.. It's such a pain in the arse for me to work on anything down low on the car since I've only got a dirt/gravel yard to work in. I hope to use the car as a commuter so I want the brakes working awesome
Dr. Roger
i can't imagine any wheel cylinder or MC not being corroded and half locked up if not full locked up after that long.
underthetire
If your gonna do it, call eric and get everything. rubber lines, caliper rebuilt kits at least for the front, some good pads then maybe a master.
detoxcowboy
Brake Problems fixed first is the best idea, even if they work they should be freshly gone over if your the new owner.. You got home safe perfect, perfect first issue.. After this you will be able to stop the car no matter what goes wrong next,, or at least have confidence to do so..
jeremiah98125
So I pulled off all the calipers, turns out both the rear calipers were dragging from sticky piston I assume.. Probably from sitting with the P brake on for so long.. The brake fluid was black like dirty engine oil. I flushed it out with new fluid and I'm going to work some more on them today and put in new pads.
Rav914
QUOTE(underthetire @ Feb 19 2010, 07:16 PM) *

If your gonna do it, call eric and get everything. rubber lines, caliper rebuilt kits at least for the front, some good pads then maybe a master.


agree.gif Any 914 new to me is a complete brake job. Eric does the calipers, I change the lines, and a new MC is a must. Even if the car sits for some time while I collect the $. The ability to stop is more important than the power to go. Just imagine coming around a corner and some little kid is in the street.....
VaccaRabite
Expect to need to replace the hard lines as well as the soft lines. I have yet to come across soft lines that are removable from the hard line connections w/o destruction - even with line wrenches.

Zach
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