jimkelly
Jun 21 2010, 02:17 PM
can early rotor and caliper be installed on late strut ??
i have this on the drivers side of my 1972 914 ??
jim
underthetire
Jun 21 2010, 02:51 PM
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jun 21 2010, 01:17 PM)
can early rotor and caliper be installed on late strut ??
i have this on my car i think?
jim
Think the caliper spacing is different. 3 on one, 3.5 on the other. Others will know for sure.
Cap'n Krusty
Jun 21 2010, 03:09 PM
Essentially, no. And it's NOT the mounting bolt spacing. The offset is different for the caliper mounting ears, and they won't center on the disc. I have heard rumor that there "may" be an interim strut in production in late '72, but I've never seen one.
The Cap'n
Eric_Shea
Jun 21 2010, 03:24 PM
I tend to think they "might" but I've never tried it and, I've been told no.
The offset on the calipers is quite a bit different. That is made up on the rotor side. SO... I "THINK" if you move rotors and calipers you "MAY" be safe.
I've also heard of the interum strut but, never seen any proof either.
I have no more 914 struts laying around, early or late, so I cannot give a definative answer but, I'd like to see EARLY ROTORS and EARLY CALIPERS on a LATE STRUT to see what happens.
I could be very wrong... all signs point to that.
jimkelly
Jun 21 2010, 03:37 PM
instead of the unicorn strut theory - i am begining to think maybe eric is on to something - that very possibly - an early caliper and rotor can be fitted to a late strut.
before i order a set of early calipers from eric - i want to get one or both my struts replaced with a matching set of early struts - since i recently installed new rotors and bearings.
now i want to do ball joints and install rebuilt calipers as my braking is still sub-par.
i can squeal my tires under emergency braking at 60 mph but at 30 mph, if i just mildly hit the brake peddle, stoping power feels weak.
jim
underthetire
Jun 21 2010, 04:02 PM
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jun 21 2010, 02:37 PM)
instead of the unicorn strut theory - i am begining to think maybe eric is on to something - that very possibly - an early caliper and rotor can be fitted to a late strut.
before i order a set of early calipers from eric - i want to get one or both my struts replaced with a matching set of early struts - since i recently installed new rotors and bearings.
now i want to do ball joints and install rebuilt calipers as my braking is still sub-par.
i can squeal my tires under emergency braking at 60 mph but at 30 mph, if i just mildly hit the brake peddle, stoping power feels weak.
jim
I just did re-build my front calipers and replaced 35 year old hoses this weekend. I will never again complain about 914 brakes again. Now to do the rears.
jimkelly
Jun 22 2010, 05:38 AM
i replaced my rubber lines recently.
** if it is determined that a late strut will work with an early rotor/caliper combination, i will just need one late pass side strut.
jim
type47
Jun 22 2010, 05:47 AM
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jun 22 2010, 03:38 AM)
... i will just need one late pass side strut.
aren't there some struts at Root's shop?
jimkelly
Jun 22 2010, 08:20 AM
maybe under the shed in his back yard - aka: micro junk yard : )
but i am hoping for a definitive answer to this age old question : ))
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QUOTE(type47 @ Jun 22 2010, 04:47 AM)
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jun 22 2010, 03:38 AM)
... i will just need one late pass side strut.
aren't there some struts at Root's shop?
Joe Ricard
Jun 22 2010, 01:25 PM
Hmm, I just always swapped the whole thing.
But yes the only difference is 1/8" spacing difference caliper to rotor centering. I think it is add a washer going early caliper to late strut.
320I caliper to late strut is machine off 1/8"
So I might have this backwards.
jimkelly
Jun 23 2010, 07:01 AM
anyone have a definitve answer. seems joe might be about right as 1/8 inch is not so obvious to the eye. jim
Eric_Shea
Jun 23 2010, 05:17 PM
Back in the last thread that addressed this Rich Towle said he would check.
Get on it Rich!
jimkelly
Jun 24 2010, 06:43 AM
new vantage point..
based on this pic - if it is off by 1/8 inch - it is not correctable by using washers.
914rat
Jun 24 2010, 10:51 AM
Jim, I have some core struts of both type and I'm just across the bay in Md.
Eric_Shea
Jun 24 2010, 01:41 PM
Offset on the calipers is much greater than 1/8th"
r_towle
Jun 26 2010, 08:34 AM
Late strut, early calipers/rotors WONT fit.
Early strut, toss it...it has the crappy ball joint anyways.
I never bothered to try later rotors/calipers on an early strut....I replaced the early strut and went the other way.
I will be in the shop today, Eric....tell me what measurements we need, I will take a look and see what I have left.
Rich
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