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Larouex
I searched and did not see the definitive answer... Should I lap weld my flares or butt weld them?
jimkelly
scottyb likes butt

and if scottyb likes butt - i have to assume butt is best

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...4838&st=120
scotty b
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Feb 28 2011, 03:48 AM) *

scottyb likes butt

and if scottyb likes butt - i have to assume butt is best

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...4838&st=120


It's true. I'm a butt man. A lap weld may be easier and in some ways stronger, but the major drawback is it gives water somewhere to hide. Even if you seam seal the hell out of fit, metal still sweats with changes in temperature. Combine that with a seam sealed lap weld and the sweat (water) has no where to run out to. A proper lap weld ( etched primed prior to welding, and sealed afterward) will last for a long time. And assuming the car is well maintained and lived indoors may last the rest of your life without showing any issues. But a properly done butt will never give you trouble sheeplove.gif
ChrisFoley
I've never lap welded a seam on any flares.
OTOH, it's very challenging and time consuming to grind the welds down to the uniform thickness of the sheetmetal. Most people never go that far, and many who try go too far without realizing it (until too late).
rick 918-S
I Like to Butt and I can not lie.

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URY914
Butt baby, butt.
Eric_Shea
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tomeric914
Definitely butt.
majkos
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mojorisen914
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Feb 28 2011, 10:19 AM) *

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I'd hit it.
Oh wait. Sorry, got off topic for a sec.
Yeah Butt weld is better.
gothspeed
When in doubt ..... butt!!!!

Get some of these, to help hold that butt together;

http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/butt-weld-...it-p-12871.aspx

rick 918-S
Like this?

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Or here's another method which will help reduce warping. The backup strip acts like a heat sink. Copper backup strips are easy to make. Get some soft copper water pipe and just hammer it flat. Leave it two layers thick. It's soft enough to form to a curved surface but rigid enough to hold the panels flush for tacking or welding with the right amount of clamps or clecos

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Although Eric's example is a much clearer example of Butt.
ChrisFoley
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Feb 28 2011, 09:19 AM) *

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I can weld anything but the crack of Dawn, lol.
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McMark
BUTT WELD!!
socalstuttgart
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Butt... it's what the factory did and it looks good inside the fender. You can make it smooth inside as well as outside.
PanelBilly
And roll the ended of the fenders before you paint them (don't ask me why I'm telling youy this now)
Eric_Shea
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Although Eric's example is a much clearer example of Butt


They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. biggrin.gif
Larouex
As always, great advice an excellent humor. Although I am browsing this on my iPad and my wife didn't buy the this was a 914 forum with that ass on the screen!
gothspeed
QUOTE(socalstuttgart @ Feb 28 2011, 10:53 AM) *

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Butt... it's what the factory did and it looks good inside the fender. You can make it smooth inside as well as outside.

Great job!!! That is the color I want mine to be!! Did you use the L96D color code to get that, or is it a modern Porsche color equivalent?? There was a nice teener on here that used Carrera GT silver, which seems a tad darker.

You really need to post more pics of your car!!!!! smile.gif

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And roll the ended of the fenders before you paint them (don't ask me why I'm telling youy this now)

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Krieger
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IMHO this is the nicest ass/legs I've ever seen. Thanks for sharing Eric!
Eric_Shea
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IMHO this is the nicest ass/legs I've ever seen. Thanks for sharing Eric!


Thanks! That was just after I shaved!
mojorisen914
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IMHO this is the nicest ass/legs I've ever seen. Thanks for sharing Eric!


Thanks! That was just after I shaved!



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That ain't right!
charliew
She looks underage to me.
SirAndy
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She looks underage to me.

I doubt it. The shape of her hands and fingers put her in the above 20 bracket ...
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bigkensteele
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She looks underage to me.

I doubt it. The shape of her hands and fingers put her in the above 20 bracket ...
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Man, you Germans are observant. I am lucky if I remember to check for an adams apple...

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Eric_Shea
That would be a professional dancer for sure...
bigkensteele
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That would be a professional dancer for sure...


I was guessing a DMV clerk, but I am clearly no good at this.
scotty b
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Mar 1 2011, 07:39 PM) *

That would be a professional dancer for sure...


I was guessing a DMV clerk, but I am clearly no good at this.


I'm guessing a Brazilian, possibly a Reef model. They ALWAYS have nice trunks sheeplove.gif

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=e...132&bih=753
bigkensteele
After seeing Scotty's last post, I may move to Brazil. Don't tell my wife.

Or maybe I will just buy her a Brazilian workout video and a thong - much cheaper in the long run.
hot_shoe914
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Geez, can you get this broad some pimple cream for her right cheek? WTF.gif
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